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The ordinary meeting, held this afternoon, was attended by Messrs A. Solomon (chairman), W. Isaacs, C. Haynes, and J, Green. MISCELLANEOUS. Accounts amounting to L 424 15s 6d were passed for payment. Leave of absence was granted to Mr W. D. Stewart, M.H.R., during the session of Parliament, A communication was received from the Caversham Council in reference to the removal of nightsoil from the Institution, and consideration deferred.

The Chairman said it had been reported that a section belonging to the Trustees at the Port was in the occupation of a family who wore not keeping it in order. The fences had been pulled down and the washhouse burnt. Mr Clulee had inquired into the matter, and the police said that if the Trustees turned the people out nobody at the Port would let them have a house.—lt was resolved to inform the head of the family that he would have to pay 4s per week rent, otherwise ho would have to be ejected. TfcE SWEATING SYSTEM. The Chairman read the following communications

Levy, Guthrie, aod Co. wrote as follows“ With regard to statement by Mayor of Caversham in last night’s Star, one of the girls referred to works in our factory. These statements with regard to girls’ working hours and also rate of remuneration are both incorrect. We never pay so little as Od tor men’s vests. The girl’s earnings, as stated in the inspector’s report, are quite correct. I find from inquiry that she has occasionally taken a vest home to finish, but it is against our rule. She has taken none at all lately, and her wages are such as may bo earned in the usual factory Hours,” Morris and Seelye wrote“ Our attention has been called to certain rcm.rks made by the Mayor of Caversham in reference to prices paid for vestmaking to two young women, one of whom is employed in our factory. In the first place the mayor ie wrong in calling it vest-making. There are seven departments in which vesta are passed through in the course of making. Tne prices he quotes—vis,, 7d and 91 for men’s vests—is for one stage only. Again, he states that the most expert vest bands in Dunedin cannot make more than twenty-two vests per week, working factory hours. Any of oar bands oan do five to six per day, factory hours, if they are willing to work. If you desire anymore information on the subject, and will call on us, we will be very glad to meet you.” The Chairman said he did not think this was a matter with which the Trustees had anything to do, The Trustees had decided that a family in receipt of 36s fid per week were not proper persons to receive charitable aid, and he did not think the question need be discussed,

It was decided to acknowledge receipt of the communications.

CHARITABLE AID. The Chairman said; Since our last meeting I have had an opportunity of reading the new Hospital and Charitable Aid Bill, copies of which are placed before you. You will find that charitable aid is placed upon an entirely different basis. The Charitable Aid Board, the Hospital Board, the Hospital Trustees, and the Benevolent Institution Trustees are all abolished, and the Dunedin City Council does the work of all these Boards. For hospital purposes they collect the necessary funds from boroughs, county councils, and road boards, and themselves manage the hospital, receiving a subsidy from the Government of from 2s to 2s fid per day for each patient. I notice that no patient is to be paid for beyond thirty days, except by consent of the Inspector-General in each ease. Any Cerson, no matter to what district he elongs, will have the right to claim' admission to any hospital if there is room for him, and his district must pay. Subsidies in all oases are only payable if Parliament votes the funds. If a lesser sum is voted than is needed for the subsidies, a lesser subsidy is paid in proportion. The Benevolent Institution at Caversham and all property belonging to it is vested on the Ist April, 1890, in the City Council, who will then assume sole management. They collect contributions from councils, boroughs, and road boards, receiving a subsidy from the Government of fid per day for each inmate. The City Council must manage these institutions itself. It has no authority to relegate its powers to other persons, except where the voluntary contributions amount to one-fourth of the gross cost of the maintenance of any institution, when they may, if they choose, allow the contributors to elect Trustees. But if the contributions fall below one-fourth, or the Council thiqk fit, it may at any time resume the management. Contributors to any institution have no voice in its management unless they subscribe onefourth of its annual cost, and the contributing councils and boroughs hare no voice

at all. No children are to be allowed _to remain beyond thirty days in any institution used for aged persons; therefore ail the children lb this institution will have to be at once sent to the Industrial School, This seems to rrie to be a Step entirely ip the wrong direction. Modern experience Shows that reformatory-bred children are by no means a success. Outdoor relief is placed on an entirely new basis. Each borough council, county council, and road board have, out of their rates, to provide outdoor relief for persons residing within their districts. The result of this will be to almost entirely free the large counties who contribute towards outdoor relief, and throw the whole burden upon the boroughs. Let me show you, as an illustration, how this will act in the case of the Flat. South Dunedin at present pays towards outdoor relief L 146 Os sd, and receives L 426 8s; Caversham pays L 192 13s, and receives L 477 2s; St. Kilda pays L 63 39s 6d, and receives L 172 18s; so that these three small boroughs, which at present pay L 406 12s lid as their gross contribution towards charitable aid, will have to pay not only L 1,076 8s for outdoor relief, but their share of the maintenance of the Institution at Caversham, the Female Refuge, and 162 children in the Industrial Schools. The result of this Act upon the funds of the City of Dunedin is shown in the following table :

Approximate Cost oi Charitable Aid to City of Dunedin under new Hospital and Charitable Aid Act:—

By this you will see that if this Bill is passed it will entail upon the City of Dunedin an increased annual cost—of course, provided the outdoor relief is continued—of L 1,994 13a sd.

Mr Haynes was not prepared to express an opinion on the Bill just now, further than this: he might say right off that it was absurd to suppose that city councillors could devote their time to these duties. As to outdoor relief, in his place in the Council he should take care that there was no expenditure in this direction. He should see that the Council exercised its powers in Bending such cases to the Refuge. The Chairman; What about their wives and children ?

Mr Haynes : I say pack them all there. The Chairman : You have no power. You can put the drunkard, the idler, and the tramp in the Refuge, but not bis family. Mr Greek said that the chairman had pointed out many objectionable features in the Bill, but had he not also found some good features ? The Chairman replied that he had. At present if a man belonging to say Oamarn went to the Dunedin Hospital they would not take him in. That had always seemed to him (the chairman) to be an improper position to take up. It had always seemed to him that the proper, because the humane, thing to do would be to take the man in and fight out the question of costs afterwards. The evil he complained of was now proposed to be remedied, Mr Green remarked that in his view that was another of the bad features of the Bill. There was a tendency for these people to drift from the country to the towns, and if a wholesome check on this could be devised it would prove of good service. BELIEF CASES, About fifty relief cases were then dealt with.

£ 8, d. £ 8. d. Outdoor relief—Present annual cost 2,910 11 O 122 children at Industrial School, at 6d per day each 1,113 5 0 80 children to be removed from Benevolent, at 6d per day each 273 15 0 10 children at St. Mary’s, Nelson .. .. „ 91 5 0 £1,178 5 0 Of which the City pays one-third, or .. 192 16 0 Present annual cost of Caversham Home 2,€95 0 0 Less maintenance of 30 children to be removed to Industrial, say £200 And Government subsidy on 170 inmatesat6dper day each, say .. 1,550 1,750 0 0 £915 0 0 Of which the City pays one-third, or say 300 0 0 Proportion of cost of Female Refuge, say .. 50 0 0 £3,763 9 0 Present contribution .. £1,768 15 7 Annual increased cost £1,991 13 6 The coat cf administration is not included in the above.

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BENEVOLENT TRUSTEES., Issue 7949, 3 July 1889

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BENEVOLENT TRUSTEES. Issue 7949, 3 July 1889

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