FLOCK HOUSE SCHEME

Evening Post, Volume CX, Issue 69, 18 September 1925, Page 3

FLOCK HOUSE SCHEME

REMISSION OF TAXATION

A PETITION TTmNBD DOWN;

This teuion.the tnuteei of th« Sheeppyrners-' Acknowledgment of Debt to British Seamen Fund petitioned. Parliament for-.»< remission of £M;gQß'i6«v7d, yb6ing:*h'e" ambunt of taxation; Wvied; by the; Government on the 'moneys payable to. the /Flock House. Trust Fund from surplus wool .pfofi'ts? 1*''"'•;";:■' :-;'*;',v'": . :''''-v. : r>-''-}\ . :■.■■■.-:'■: .Yesterday afternoon ; the . Public

Accounjra.Committee reported' to, the House o^!fieprMte*rita£iveßHhat it had no recommendation to 'mate. ! . ■

! The chairman, of the Committee i(Mr^ J. A. ] Nash) stated that the Committei appreciated very much the work thai; was being done by .the trustees-of" the : fund, but the .petitioners should - realise '■" that what they [ were asking '■ for wai; v money which had been leyied;lr6m the v taxpayers.V The iconteibntions to' the-;" fund were in no different position to any :■ otter who ,'dispoMdi of: part./ .of; their income; aq "icOTtributji^nls 'to^ thY ' various-war funds.; H-the prayer of the < ' petition' -were;; gr*nt%'.Jth'e ; ; iYi:MJO.AIjY;:' thV>Red jCrosg Society) ■ and. - the■ War: -; Relief Fund would be 'quit*; justified inl-/--making .a: similarapplication.' ;To grant; ■ the petition would we establishing a pre-;' ocdent. ,": ': ';■ ' .■'-'• ■,;■■■',■.;■ •■■?pi ;The Leader of i the!Opposition> (Mri &'? "-1 W.'/Forbes):regretted the recomnienda^.."-'''.-tion v i;vMoney^deyot«J^ i-'lo' Ivcha Iritable l'«r'' : '.!. /pUblicyobjects^should''not'be'subjected ; to taxation by-the , State.* Soch a precedent :' as, that desired .• should', be creat- ]'„■ ed.y The'j.StateJjhduldshqw, Sits appre-' ciation':. of the; efforts of :men ;who wera. i '.donating moneys for'th'e Benefit. of: the '■■■. .p.ubliff/.:--'Flotk^Hpi^'t%«»'!jierformiii9;.'a';'.':' (valuable/: workp-and'if any.'deserring'object 'had a claim -on ■ the; Government '■ surely'that' was one; iiFunda'of.that sort , •should be 1 exempted' from'taxation, -be- : cause ~ no: person 'was • getting Jany pecuniary gain. ':i< ■;.">»,• >:--^'";; ■•;••'■«*•['■. ■.'■-•■ •.•' ■■•.': --■ ..'■ ;ivMr v T. W,, Ehodes'. (Thameß) support-, : ; jed, the,contentions.;of;.Mr,.' ■'FarJjpSj: l j,'Ho 1 , ;cpiild;see 1 inp- danger:;jp;en.TOur^ing',ben- V ■ eVolentvpepple.'tp-leaTe;i their; money' for \ the purpose of benefiting the■ Stated..,v ',- ■liilThe'ft&dY/iaid'iMr^L.' M^lsittrlOhriit- % church .North)"was. Baying-''the'State; : a ' gbo<d deal; iof ;moneyj and the; common- i 'sense';,; thing to vdo Vw.as:■ 'toi- remit the [.in- :■;''• come tax.'; He .wotddnotexismpt 1 every?;' charitable bequest -from taxation,; but,in ', •thejcase;pf; the';founding of anCbrphah-;: age,, of. something 'of: that' eoxp,' : the;; 1 Government should not stand by/a hardr ■:..: .and-fast;;lipgalirule^ 'fHtf'-.cdtiaidered' that'.,'!••a;i.^rk^: like'%tnay;bem(r>^'amed'' soui'\at:.-;;''' Fioct:'House' was "entitled -^o a;sub«3y,v ;fromthe Government?., Means, should-be ;- taken to bring -girla: of deceased sailors: ■;• under .the scheme. ■.■: The :-Goverhment'; ■ : should assist; to /that end;. v ;.. "..''% }:!l ■'■¥-. ■}: ;' lMr. •'.^^J;, Linklater. (Manawatu) - deplored ;, th?. recommendation of tfie.Committee. lHe;';butlined'the workybemjj';performed- •'; p;ai'|Flikik\.:Hflase T;iiit:,thf','^ai|iiing''i i of the;, r ' boys In 'farming,iandjsaid 'the. Bchenie; ;ga.ve every indication of being a success. _■ If' the'^tax.^uld'hot.'be'remitted, then :■ the' Go|yerini?ni;.'ihonld/ tarryront ,Mr. ;: ; Isitt's suggestion and; giyeCa' ijibsidy to , .PlocksHouse;^^.J."-''H;;.:.;',■; )'J',i'x' ':;■;''; \J'-"'-\--,f

l'd«ty J ;■■i*!rid';'Mr.'^:■.,•> ;H:-iField'^(p^«ki):wßii r to; give'every sup- ? ' : port' ta >1 such' as House.; •'■ Sbine'pf/^e^arme^rjwhtiiej^virplus wool ; profit* went into;the fund suffered mnch ' daring 'the- ilump, ,but they adhered to ; their ",prbmirt;;torri.ve,"thei money to the, Bdhenie; 'If\th»;&oTerament could not ' ••w|imV:;tte; :^^.ih(jnVit'>hißuld;-d6 some- .••■•. thing -.to■meet the "position.'-"' He knew,"' v .that »Ivaluable./'gift; hadl'.been, lost to.' '.' the .'country ' because _of ■ the• high : , taxation, which would-be jmpo*»d.'. -'.''.. , • The' Minister. of;Juaticft'.(tKei:Hpn/ Sir* r: James .Pa^)^iaidLtbit_;the;-.Committee; ; could-haye come ';to' no 'other • conclus- < '■]■■ ion. The Government looked upon Flock Houw'aj one?bf;the.bftit"»chopfs in-|)rßc- , ;Ucal- I .«|djic»tipn;* in a,-;-; ';.. young immigrant"'wai'"*-"better'"aigefc ■;/ than »n adult Voie. : The matter undef diicuMibn y< had; receiTed{• conaideration.!.';■;■ from the Opvernmentv which was sjTn- , pathatic with the work being done 'at, : : ,Flock.;Houße..; ,To rremit taxation-,-;how- :; ; ever,- 1 would;jlead to:'inte^inable''difli- ..',■ cultieß, '■' hixi ;th«iVGbVerkimeht' -wiib''con- : '■'■; gidering whether Mock'Howie could not • receive ■-. «ome tubst'antial - assustance 1 from; the Education; and Agriculture. Depart-;^ • •m'ente;- l-;V.A^vVii' iv^>;\v::-':'v^V"' v ':::!/ il'':V'' i':;r-'::'-'' 1.-

: :':iPlock I House, ■'■', in; .the;,opinion^ of Mr... ' Wi'-'- S.C. Glerih,_(RangHikei);i! wasi'an in^ ■ stitution 7 which should, receive'a straight-; . puti'anriual-'subsidy 'frbnv'-the- State. *.Al- ■ ' together-r.sptothing^ljke :':£J6O,OOO -had : ; . ■,j^n:.^ent:;in!W%ti|^-th*; [ j^eme.;-Thei';; ii ■'Fpwtry^pi^a-rfjMnt-nbad-'-'-'^Seived'i'M-;-'--'':.: sistahce-'ftbrn'--Flock House;.'and some- „ thing like 300)000 trees had' been planted..;' ■„', on ; waste land-by .the ;bbys.:'He submit-, ted .that the institution. had a, claim to tecp'grution^frora;: the-State; dHe men-;.,.: tioiied that some farmers who' had gorio I ■' bankrupt in the slump', had not refrained = from .paying theirshare toi the^'fund.:.':!, ; ; 4;Mr; J. -M'Combs •: (Lyttelton);" denied.:-.-; "the argiimerit that-peoplewere-taxed' on ' their gifts. •:..Death, duties' belonged, to' •-. the State, m it had shared the creation bf-the"Ke»tthV; The boysi at Flock House- ■ weje being trained, to act as } for - the: fanners. :who '•■ gaye^.the, money-:• for;..;; the fund. Not only did the petitioners ." agk'; for;» refund "of ithe : :duty,: but they, .is also "asked,for'; a remissibnVof latid!"taxv • The;Cfemini«Bi?rierSof Taxes .had «hown ; : in evidence that those^powers, who hs>d; Contributed -to the ■ fund "had' already re- ■■ ceived consideration; in ;thej;Mse^sm«ifc?. : pfj -the^income;.taxi: >: The; position was V; ttfat"; they were really making an; appli-;; cationffor remusion of income tas twice; : over;;, J-:; ;A^isrood;deal' of; ■ humbug had ; ; been tkljced-about ihe subject during the :. afterhopni'■ 'Th'»!FlbcK'House-boy's .were., riot 'getting"' shy' elefeentary' 'educationj.-; '! .they. ;W,ere. merely, .bejng-trained^a* shejs- ■■'■ Ker"ds!"and ianri':worker*'.,for "the-.'coritri- !. b'utors" to the lund; 'if. the" contributors--did not'require-the : boys'l services, then' ;■ they;;rnight gbTtb-:'work' for those' i.who".' v •!ha'd-.not'contribnte'd.';.;{';'!'■/i-.V'j'iv;"■',,: ;'/.c

;-;The .reriort;. was -laid -on'-thV^taWe,