SCENE IN THE COMMONS.

Auckland Star, Volume XL, Issue 205, 28 August 1909, Page 15

SCENE IN THE COMMONS.

EABL tWI-NTEttTON ANl> W'ffßOßNjsV ■■■ - ? 1, Captain Olive (U.) was speaking In. tit ■ House of Commons shortly after- tnidnlghV on. July 12, .when Mr Pointer (Labour) rate, and asked the Chairman, whether this "sills/ . farce" had not gone on long ewngh, (Laid : Opposition crjes, of "Order."). ~,«, I B*rl Wlnterton: I desire to *sk.your m« j Ing, Mr Emniott, whether- the words "alUj, jiferce" as applied to a debate of 4U» imS | are in order. (Opposition cheers.) ; iThe Chairman: It is an expression which. ' certainly ought not to be used. (Opposition cheers and cries of''Withdraw/') ■ : -- J As Mr 'Pointer.did not rise, the Chalrmaft .i> wte about to address the hon, member again, ;-1 when Mr Thome (labour) shouted, ",W3»at . i about humbug?" ~,,"., . .; j 'The Chafnnan: The wortf ;'.*lflunbug'' baa i been allowed on previous occasions, I hop* the hon. member, whatever hie private 1 opinion may -be, win withdraw the cipres- ' slon.- « =.-■- ;•: "|- Mγ Pointer: My difficulty is.that I'do not know what words to. substitute, ' (Opposlt tlon cries of "Order" and "Withdraw.*') .V.. . ■Mr Thome; Way not call it errant bum , * one-?' - .... -. ■ — ■—- . ' -■_■■ ; Mr Pointer: Out of respect for t}u» rullnf ; of the Chelr'i"will 'withdraw the expressions : ; (Cheers.) ~., . Shortly afterwards, as Captain-J»retymaa -. was speaking, _; _ ■ -_; v , •.-■','*■ /.•■ : Barl' Winterton said the hon. member tat - West WUI JThorner-was in ea unfit state to take part in the debates, '• Mr Tiiorne;. Jam as epber »a.y.flft are, mj; , dear friend. .--• '■■■■■< The Chairman: I think the noble lord's remark was quite of I "WitharewJ")-4na that he muit iwitlidww. %\ ... '■..■'■■,-'■'-•■ "■- ! Air Thorne: He ought to have the words : rammed dpwn his throat. Bail Wintertpn: Ininy sincere opinion the fcpn. member .was tot Jα a fit stated to take pert in the debate, but as yqu Tx&fm ruled that be is,, sir. J will withdraw. (Loud cries of "Qh!" and -', The -Chairman said he must ask thi Labour ctembernot to keep interrupting." 3jfr Thorhe: I haven't interrupted durlßSj .the Whole 'evenlnff. j •Sir Keir Hurdle, on a point of order, aikedif the poble lord's statement was a, witt" \- drawal. ...... ; . ..• " " j Earl Wlntertoft said he did withdraw it i unreservedly, •; '"-":■, j Mr Thorne: If he is not prepared to with- J. draw -I will call him a liar. (Lioud cries gt ■ I "Oh, oh!") ,-Mi The Chairman: He has withdrawn, and I >| i tfte hon. member must not call the noble ; lord a: liar, .-"• ; : ; Mr Thome: He is an' absolute ;i«r. X »BB U" j *s sober Is any man in thl# Hoqeel J ,' The Chairman: The hon. member for . J West Bam has now used an un-Paillamen* | tary expression, tad { must ask;'him t* ! 1 ■ withdraw; {t - - ! Mr Thorne: I wilf do nothing of the kind. J-. The Chairman; Then I must ask him t» wiftdraw from our proceedings. (Oppo'slttqa cheers;) '■;; ■-.-'. '■•■ ~'--K ■ Mr Thorne then left the Chamber, an* aa he .walked out he shouted to I^ord'Winter- ; . ton: "JlowVou walk out, and see if you ar* ' ■ as sober as I am." ; In consequence of continued Interrop. tlons, Me' Pretyman moved" to report progrese, a motion which was defeated, by itsl to 88. "■;"; " * J.= ,;■;■•; M* Kelr Hardle then said: May I call the Chairman's attention to the.fact ! - Mr TThorne has tasted no liquor of any kind '■■;. to-da/. (Cheers.) The words he uttered , were used under extreme provocation, and .• < were conditional, and I desire to ask whether your ruling that he be debarred froe the House for the rest of the sitting conii not be recalled, and my hon. friend reii* ; stated in his place.. j I Barl Winterton: In view of what'the hq». I gentleman has stated I am perfectly pr*. j| pared to apologise to the hon." member for : ] West Ham i I apologise unreservediy. (Chesys.) I was led to say-what; I did by, ! the "conduct of the hon. member, but J : apologise. The Chairman: I think it impossible ■ for mc to recall the suspension, It would V be technically impossible. Also;the hon, member for West Ham deliberatejjr refuwet to withdraw a word which < told him wa* . pn-P»riiamentary, aed <t was' bq account oi his conduct to the Chair thafir had to ' direct his withdrawal fop th«r rem«loder oC the Hitting. . ■ :% ; CEhe incident then terminated. '. ' : - j