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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

FRIDAY, JULY 25.

AFTERNOON SITTING. The House met at 2.30 p.m. A BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Sir G Grey rose to a question of privilege, and moved that, m consequence of a "count out" on the previous night, the business set down for that occasion should take place to-day, and to-day's business be transacted either on Saturday or Monday He said there was no doubt a number of members had been placed m duress the previous night, and a quorum was prevented from being present. It was one of the most, serious questions that had ever come before the House,;, and he thought that illegal proceedings of that kind^should not be sanctioned by Parliament. If such an event had occurred m Great Britain the whole nation would be stirred from end to end. The Speaker suggested that Sir G. Grey should first move that a breach of privilege had been committed. Sir George Grey then moved to that effect. . TT MrHobbs seconded the motion. He said it had been generally stated that a count out would take place last night, and he (Mr Hobbs) had therefore gone out to the lobby to influence members to enter the House, so that a measure m which he was interested should not be endangered for want of quorum. Having entered the whip's room m search of members the door was shortly afterwards locked. He I had to make his escape through the window. He agreed with Sir G. Grey that such proceedings should not be sanctioned by the House. Mr Mackenzie (Mt Ida) was seated m the whip's room when the bell was rung, and when he found Mr Hobbs could not effect his escape he resigned himself to the inevitable. He endeavoured to prevent MrHobbs escaping from the window, but he had heard it suggested, no doubt untruthfully, that Mr Hobbs himself had locked the door and kept the key m his pocket. He (Mr Mackenzie) was amongst those who were locked m, and he was therefore unable to make up a quorum. At the same time he thought it very undesirable that a number of Bills should be put on the order paper by private members, which had no chance of passing, and which were of no consequence to any°Maior Steward (Waimate) said he was simply exercising his right when he brought forward a Bill which he thought for the public good. The Bill that was talked out the previous night was ]ust as important to a few shepherds whom it was intended to benefit as many other Bills before the House. He referred to the tactics that were pursued on Wednesday m order to prevent other 81113 besides his own from being brought on. Members should admit that it was not his (Major Steward's) Bill that was aimed at last night, but the Hospital and Charitable Aid Bui, brought m by Mr Walker, which was lower down on the Order Paper. Mr Tanner also condemned the praotice that had grown up m the House of blocking one Bill merely to defeat another measure. ,„•••» n > I Mr Pyke supported feu 1 George Grey s Mr Reeves (St Albans) disclaimed that he and others who thought with him, were animated by any desire to see the little Bills down on the Order Paper talked out the previous night. Mr Seddon agreed with bir U. Grey, and strongly condemned what had taken place. It was a most unheard-of proceed- j ui«r and derogatory to Parliament. The ! only way to remedy matters would be to put last night's business on this day's tj fvocr Sir John Hall thought a breach of the privileges of the House had been committed. . Mr Mitchelson disclaimed all knowledge of the attempt to count out the j House. He intended asking the House i to sit on Monday evening for the discussion of private Bills if the Houne were willing to do so. Mr Hislop said the Government disclaimed any responsibility for what had occurred. '•■'■* Mr Buxton was one of those who voluntarily remained out last night, as he was satisfied, from Mr Fish's remarks, that he was laying the foundation of a stonewall which he was sure would last till half-past twelve o'clockMr Monk, as one of those members who were locked m, resented the personal indignity that had been cast on him, and he regretted to find that there were no signs of penitence on the part of members for the degrading incident that had occurred last night. After further discussion, Sir George Grej replied at some length, repeating that a serious breach of privilege had occurred. The motion was then carried on the voicew. Sir G. Grey then moved "That, m consequence of the proceedings of last night, the business set down for that night, should be taken on Monday next." Lost by 38 to 31. PUBLIC WORKH STATEMENT. Mr Fergus laid the Public Works Statement on the table. APPOINTMENTS TO THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. On the motion for going into Committee of Supply, Mr Larnach moved as an amendment that the Governor should be advised not to make any fresh appointments to the Legislative Council until after the meeting of the next Parliament. He said that a pledge of this kind was extracted from the Stout-Vogel Government m 1887 and he thought it reasonable at the present juncture. The debate w«s interrupted by the 5.30 p.m. adjournment.

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES., Ashburton Guardian, Volume VII, Issue 2475, 26 July 1890

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Ashburton Guardian, Volume VII, Issue 2475, 26 July 1890

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