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, The House resumed ait 7.30 p.m. ; * ■■" ADDRESS-IN-REPLY. , ; Mr Ballance resumed the debate on; the Address-in-Reply. He 7 -thought t the House-would share with h's" regret that more light was.not thrown on the Address' by the usual speeches made. pn. such J occasions by the mover and seconder; but he regretted that the member for "VVaipawa was suffering from illness. It peared to him. (Mr Ballance) that there was a goood deal in the Speech of a suggestive character. He referred first fco ;the Premier's illness, which: might probably compel him to relinquish • 'office at; no, distant date. If. such should prove to be the case,, he desired to ;express the feeling ■'- of• 'regret which was: shared by the whole of the Opposition at such a contingency, and ne sincerely hoped that after, a short rest the Premier 'would-'again-'Be able to take his place amongst them fullyj restored to health. He deplored thataH*reference to the great question of labor? which was now agitating the whole world, had been omitted in the Speech. During the 1 recess^ w° very im,portant speeches had been made iby Ministers, and he could not but come to the conclusion that those speeches had been made with the consent of the Cabinet. Mr Fergus, for instance, had touched on large questions of policy, such as taking over the liabilities of local bodies, and this question must have been fully* discussed by the hen. gentleman's colleagues before he addressed his consti.-, tuente. Referring to the settlement: oftlie'lantlj Be-cdnsidered that one of the' questions that could engage tfyeir 1; attention. They were told that the colony! now possessed a choice of tenure, but feW present r Minister for Lands had done' nisi upmost to render the village settlement scheme odious in the eyes of the people, and he had told them that his (Mr Richardson's) whole aim had been to ,alienate' large quantities of land. The hon. genfleman condemned himself by such a' statement, as, by his own showing;, 'although he had parted with large quantities of land^ he was year by year puttinp a smaller number of settler^ 'on it., ' He (Mr,Ballance 1) thought the fact of such, a] large exodus having 1 occurred .in•'••our population .was due ,to' people, Ibeing un.able to obtain land for setjblenient, and the manner in which the landadmihistration was at present conducted was,'likely, to lead to dummyism; such : as rt ,they. had -never, heard oft before,' He asserted' that notwithstanding our large exports .thet administration of the! land of the; colony had done more to deepen depression than anything else. Ti .As to the acquisition of Native lands, he ' admitted)- that, it was. desirable to acdu'ire'those glands,',but the Government had'used'the vote of £29,C0Q given for this purpose for the beiiefiblof speculators, '/ and not for the benefit of the public at large. Referring to Major-General Edwards' report on the defences, he said he was not a high Imperial officer giving a professional opinion, but simply a tout for one of the Governments of Australia, in proof pf which Mr Ballance quoted Sir H. ParkeV letter to the General, suggesting that lit would be a good thing for New South Wales if a Chinese fleet could sail about in Sydney harbor. As to the question of federation, he asked what the delegates, .which they^ere fcpjbe. ]asked s 'to\lsps6int, Iwerti tol do.': Tneylwere Hupon^ by the Governor's speech to commit them-, selves to federation, and if they had made ap their minds to have nothing to do • wijbh federation at present, they should express themselves to that effect plainly, and have nothing to do with appointing delegates. There were snme remarkable appointments^ -made during the recess which were'not^referred to in the speech,* He should like to know why an .appoint- J -ment was made to the Supreme Bench without a special Act. being passed, and he [contended that Mr''Justice Edwards could not take his. seat on the Bench until his salary had been fixed, which could not be done until a special Act was passed' by' Parliam lei& / What status, he should like to know, was possessed by ,Mr Edwards. which entitled him to be raised to the Supreme Court bench ? jComing to another appointment, that of Colonel Trimble as Judge of the Native. Land C.ourt, 'he. fpund\ that the appointment "would have to' be legalised by aln A.ct, and that hjs.salary ,ha4in.conse- irquence been: paid out of unauthorised ex-' penditure. They had also had a marine engineer and engineer-in-chief appointed, and ne' wanted to know why those two offices could not be performed by one officer, especially in times of retrenchment, of which they had heard so much from the present Government. Then they were told, during the recess, that it was very desirable that the land belonging i to the East Coast Land Settlement Com--1 pany should be purchased to prevent the [ Natives being robbed, and he hoped the Government would lay the whole of the papers connected with this transaction on the table. He complained that no reference was made in the Speech to the property tax, and no opportunity was therefore given to the House of discussing its' readjustment. Coming to Mr Fergus' • spoech at Queenstown, he asserted that no expression of opinion was more derided in the House than that the goheral and I local finances should be kept separate, but they were now apparently about to institute a complete change in this respect. The conclusion he had come to on reading Mr Fergus' speech was that there was some kjnd Sf a proposal to mix themselves up with the liabilities of local bodies, and they would like ,to know, whether that was the policy of the Government or not. With respect to local government on the West Coast, he was not aware that any particular desire' had lueen expressed for that by the people interested. He contended that there was a universal desire expressed last session for a dissolution,, and he thought the Government now regretted they had not adopted that course., He regretted that they ware to waste their time this session doing nothing, and he thought that even now the Government ought to go to the country on their, policy and obtain an expression of opinion on it.

Mr Hislop thanked Mr Balluncc on behalf of the Government for the handsome manner in which he referred to the Premier's itate of hwltb, He said the

hon ifentleman'ii speech was a characteristic one, and an effort was made to speak to an audience outside the House." He hoped Mr Ballance would excuse him from referring fully to all his criticisms, as other opportunities would given for doing so. Mr Ballance had no right to assume to himself all the virtues with respect to the settlement of the land. Other persons were just as eager as that, hon gontluman to do so, and it was no particular, credit to Mr ■-BaUmm* ;•*• put twelve hundred people on the land in otta iyear at!'aW,expenditure 0f"3^^,000." He (Mr Hislopy contended TtKat the settle-" •mentof the land had notWngftir»de''with the number, 'of i people* arhfo had left the , colony, but it would be found that the number'of, people who had taken uft land - under the administration of the.present ,^ Ministry was greater thin under tliat of Mr . .Ballance. 4 They' would j be' abkyto: prove by figures that the administration of/his hon colleague', the'Minist&Tf&'X&ids, was infinitely more isuccesßful i thtfn* that

of the late Minister. As to Mr Balance's remarks ?about the purchase 6f ''Native - land at Rotorua, he wished to. say ih*t theo ( Gx)y/ernmen^ had made a >,very/ good 1 bar- .-j gain by that transaction, and if rumor was -V to be beleived Mr Ballance himself had *■■_ I intended to {purchase; Rotorua/ ; i^tif B«l- '■'/ lancer-?'/ $0.") r .. flei should pass r over; . several charges made by the hon. gentleman, ,bfrtVa#r ; ijo, the question'i'^w»pv, ,'•,■ .pqinfonenjfc,, pf { ,«. j Supreme' Court fudge, :s" he regretted that, ,Mr« jßsllanfey should so, far fprgetjija. pp^tic^,#£, to. assert that Mr: Justice Edwards was : appojinted-at the r dictetipn;of ,a coterie ; of; lawyers;, aty/Wel- • lingtonj „ jThjq .Government: the appointment, of•„» r Supreme wQourt Judge ,as' a „very<, sacred, .matter, and ■not o?je..to;be,undertaken flight^ Mr, ,]|Bai^n9e|f was also quite wrong in ' his law,. «w .a. Judge ..:had been. »p- ■ pointed to the Appellant Court of England without salary and without a Bill Being passed. r Cdlonfel Trimble's appointment) had'also given' great satisfaction. He ' could assure .Mr. .Ballance, ( that .whatever - ? course had bieert adopted vri<3i' respect to the East Coast Settlement 'Company would be, laid fully before the .House. Hecon'tended.that sufficient m&tenf'-weW men- ; tioned in the GovemoraTßpeech to occupy the House profitably this session,.and he . ' denied that they werfe 'either trumpery or. unimportant, ashadbeenalle^ed. r'(t'iniUly ■ he said the hon member "Had "not " been able to find any'faults''with the adminis* tration of the Government, and he considered that! tHe administration compared most favorably with that of their predecessors. - — . ''"-■•

, Sir George Grey referred, to the r .wearini>xs and dnjariiitfu they,hart listeneii to that ' nii;hf, when such''grant queetions required, adjustment. He intended^pro- , poiiri^ an amendment at Kprbpei'time to the ..third, paragraph, in tl^e Governor's speech; prajing hiisEx^ellebcy toxfissolve ParUament withouß'delay s,''and to cause writs to be issued, for the election of a hew 'Parliament;'" ' "- ""'-al ***« ? ■, ''.

Mr Taylor protested against angina- . portant debate Hike,thejprefierit one being forced' through in 1 the- manner proposed by;th'eXibvernmehti' r (i ,;./.- -fnhh \:->' ".', ;; Major. Steward moved the adjournment of the debate on the^ground/thsiiiniany members who- had; not arrived . anxious to. take part'in it,./ '<";> tyY * ' ■i-Mr Mitchelson,said, the . Government > 'had intended tonfihish the- debatefT,th*t :- night. if t. possible^ and; he > failed >to > see - what good; could be attained by adjoiirnmentj ' Nevertheless he should not oppose" the motion. .• „.-1 .yi.J'.ii I'witi—v'Hfii :\'

'■ ■ Theimotion--was wreed * to^tanflA.the debate adjourned till Tuesdayfnextj;t£

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EVENING SITTING., Ashburton Guardian, Volume VII, Issue 2447, 21 June 1890

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EVENING SITTING. Ashburton Guardian, Volume VII, Issue 2447, 21 June 1890

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