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THE REPRESENTATION QUESTION.

(fbom our own corbesponbent.) Welungton, July 31, 5 p m. Tqe atonewalllng on the main question oatna to an end at abont half-past three, when several dlvlstona were taken, whioh, howaver, resulted similarly In each owe, and by 67 to 27 the House deotded that the Representation Bill shonld go Into committee, and then Immadlfttely «d---joarned till 7.30 p.mj . llp.Qlt > j&? *f W9»t«r Qt the EoUH9 *m

counted for In the division or pic li3ts, with tte cxc ption of Messrs Osmond and Taipua, and the absence of tuch a prominent man as Mr Ormond frohv either list ' la the subject of a good deal of comment -, Immediately on resuming tV.is evening Sir George Grey brought down h's amend merit, which, however, he has sightly altered from ihe form which Le gave mryesterday. The amendment now prov'de* for the suspension of the Bepresefatlor Act, 1887> (reducing the nnrcbsr n« members) instead cf ft r fc- c repeal of ib.-* Act. Sir Gecrge informs me that ho h3& » greed to tbisaleratirn io consequerioa o^ Bepreseotations mrda to him by n number of members that whilst quite "willing t > agree to ihe suspension of the Act they could not vote for its repeal withoat violating pledges given to their coo sti neits. Me b-§ F sh, Seddon. on'? Moaa followed Sir George, speaking ie t *vor of his amendments. Ea'ly this afternoon a verbal ■ proposal made by Mr Allen, on behalf of the town party, for a conference of bix from efirfi side to try to arrange a settlement of the difference between them on tte question of JRepiacentation. Subsequently the town party xeaeived a letter from Mr Seymour to the «ffectthai; the country party would not object to sending a deputation to meat delegates from the town party; they wou'd be prepared to discuss the question cf making an addition to the country popula { tion°, instead of a deduction from that of the four ohtef centres ; also the areas t:> . which the additional quota was to apply. Dr Newman, Messrs Moea, Barron, AVen, j Fitcheit and Percival were appointed delegates on behalf of the town party, and Messrs Seymour, Fulton, Seddon, Wilsoo, Bmsell, Mac Arthur, Major S^waid. and Lance wera appointed to represent the country party. The Conference rre after the Home ro?e at 4 p.m., and lasted till six. The country members j submitted three pom's for coua'deratlon : — (1) Tjs mdeof c< mooting the quota; (2) The dUtrlct to ba effected; (3) The •moont to be allowed In calculating the qnota. To thete Mr Mobs desirtd to add a redaction io the large margin of 750 placed at the 0 immlsslonera' discretion, Neither aide was authorised by its party , to do more thsn enter Into preliminary dffOßsalon, and if possible arrive at some ceaaocable compromlce to be submitted to It for approval. After much discussion ih'ts Conference arranged that the mode of emnputatlou should be that of the Bill of 1887 j aieo that the diatrta'a to ba a footed ahould ba as tbere enumerated. The country delegate! ioslated that both these concessions ahou!d, however, be conditional on a satisfactory arrangement as to the* amount of q'oia. This they fixed at 33$ and refused to entertain the slightest diminution. The town delegates offered io consider 25 per cent, but the country delegates refuted even to listen to it. The meeting therefore broke op without coming to any result. It will be remembered that early m the asatton several questions were asked Ministers is to the measure of relief they Intended to afford Crown tenants. GoYernment promised to deal with the matter In a Bill and I now learu that the Bill will p?o7lde for the appointment of Waste Land Boards as eourta of appeal, to whom all holders of land prior to the Posing of the Land Act, 1887, may apply for relief *ny time up to Jaonary, 1891. Provision wUI also be made for appealing tgatnat valuations and objections. The Bill will be to place all tenants who pur ch?s&d or leased their holdings prior to. 1887, on tbe same advantage aa thoso «bo took up tbeir holdings after the paes. lop cf that Aot. Now that the stonewalling on tbe main question is over most people will imagioe (sat everything is to ba plain sailing hersafter, but that is far from beiog the case, and It is quite expected that the two distinct psrUe*, »s they now appear, will be split ap Into all sofa of factlonr, and will proceed to fall upon eioh other, nctll nothing m ihi way of organiead parties remain. Sir G. Grey's amendment is vfewed differently : some think it will B ilve the difficulty, others that it Is only ths bagfnaing of chaos. Government have pledged themselves to stand to the red uc ion of members, and have even said it the Honae tgroea to the repeal of the Aot Ministers will resign. Whether they would think It their duty to do co if tbe Act .a merely suspended {■ another matter. With reference to the rumor of a compromise nnder which »n allowaroe of 2f percent woald be made to distinctly re nl dlatricte, on the b»B r s of ihe Act of 1887, country members state that tbia would give them even a greater advantage than ia proposed m tbe B ; ll now before the Hccee. August J, 10 30 a.m. Fcom b etatement made a*; the close of last night's proceedings It appears that aome memberr of tbe town party, at the eloce conferer.ca yesterday, expressed themselves willing to split tha diff-recos between 25 and 33 J per cent, and there is BOD3Q dleeatlafrcticD among the members of the country party that tbia was not taken advantage of. it either side however waa empowered at the conference to make any fiaal arrangement. Tbere hiving been no notion mdc to report p'ogcecs last night, wben Mr Hamlin left the chair, it is argned that the effect of Ms dtjog bo wbs to kill tbe BUI, and that another motion must now be rmde to reinstate it. Tbe point Is to be raised this morning upon the house meetine. The "Time)" thin morning ssys It h considered probable the Government will deo'are Sir G. Grey's amandment a miahteriai qceation. 11.15 am. Mr Hsm'la hes ruled tb«t, bb the question befo c the Hoa?e latt eight was that the Chaizman l-.ave the chair till 10.30 tomorrow morning, not merely that the Chairmaa leava tbe chair, bis aotlon In railing for a division, and, upon the House giving an rnvmailve vote, In so leaving the chair, was quite In accordance with the Standing Orders. A motion to report p- ogres • m crder io obtain tbe Speaker's rolfrgon the point was negatived by 89 to SB Consideration of Sir G. Grey'a emendment ia OomaiUtce waa then resumed. I em Icfo nvd d'B ! >notly by a Minister that aiy attempt m tbe direction of the xeaoct'on cf member must b : regarCed by Governmrnt kb a &liu!sterial quoation. 1 *va alao infom^d that tbere is a ntrcng fueling that the deration of the preeent j Pail anaent ebou?d ba extecdrd one year, ' and fiat if Enoh a proposal is mado it Is likely to bn carded. In the first plase there are f^w numbers who would not be glad to g'va themselves a year's lease cf parl au?nta"y life, end to the ecoond place there Is a cogent reason for extending the parliament a year to order tt at the next census be taken and the readjastment of bonndariea and redistribution of ceita he made occe, whereas if Parliament expires next year the now Parliament will be elected bef-.re tbe census ia taken, and re-adjustment and redistribution would have to be again made after the election^ MANIFESTO OF THE CITY PARTY The following maulfe^to has he^n Issued by tbe city patty In emwer to ! hs 6ta*emtrnt of she coumry tn^raber* 1 , Issued lasL night : — The prov slorb of tie proposer 1 Rspre36ntd'inn B 11 era Inequitable and a. ' variance wl h the modern prlnc'ples of the government of young and democratic countries for the following reaions : — (1.) •' Daricg a period of ovar fifty years there has bt-en a gradual extension of the franchise tendiDg toward h an equality of i ■■''■*. 'b?s colony. Tne Legislature In 1879 -r'ntyd manhood aaffrage and thus r -co iiUt-d for tbe first time In the oolony :i<» ucipln of t quality In eleotoralrlgh'a , and privileges amo g't all man of the age of twenty-one ?ears »nd upwardi." (2c) j;^t (tawUttitt«r A9l wm pu«4 b ? I? *•

the ItnpwUl Parliament at a time when the vJanaVee was iimited to thoeo pos-, scnsJpg' a c&p'.'cl qualification. The Ao 1 ftadf nqnired » propotty qnalification, &uV" tbs Colonial Legislature ban Ion? 'lnce declare;? thfa naMisr deelrable nor necrasury. Ons losdlng principle of t*>e OonstHuMop was po.'f.c* f quality amongst aU electors, ir'o-pecUvo of their p^ce? of residence wlto lnr fn to?n or country. VUh princir!* vha Representation 13.:' v^ol^fßVsß'l !O'b at define ce. The Leijia larnro has )< na: r'-co2;nl*od population and not merely electors an m thf 0 neUiutlon Act, ai the frae baate o' ropre»at»tat!on " (3) " The PIU m |necu'.Uble Red illogical, Uasint eh ca if irbftrarTy aeipo's and partially disfranchises the four omtres of pipnVfo-,^"'' it glvsß other o^ntK'Bof p-tpnUtio", buc? j as Napier, Veloon, InvsrcugfH, »cd otHer towns «a full eleo'oral district. Thf ffeofc of p'vlng auch large to*na >qt*l . electoral rights with coun'ry district will neutralise he supposed be-cfi a to bf araDted to the latter dle<r?cta jut t< dotinot 25 per cent, from i.h a *Q f^n centres, this being equnl to an ai?dU!<m,cf 33^ per cent., whilst all other parts of the oolony, whether town or oon^tty, ar.grantoA fall and equal elector*' priviloge«i " (4) " The BUI Is not only st variance with the principles of tha Oonstltn'l' n Ao 1 -, bn ( also with all past lepißiaUon m 'hi* colony on the subjeo*." (5) " The oaV j 9 at o f repreeentation hsvlnct been dealt with b" recently a« 1837, ought not to be agitated cr dlatarbed. The vcoacossfon of 18 p^r cent nominal, given by this Act, wca arrived at after a lenethened debate «nd fni? dluoasßlon. 11 (6) « That the Act nf 1887 wbllafc It gave a nom'na) sdii-Jon of 18 ncr cent to special diitriots, enoh as rosd dti trio's, and also boroughs not bav'n? more than 2000 inhabitants, placed all ntfae>portions of the colony tq a footing of absolute cqaality." (7) "That although the question of the representation of the people has been dealt w!-H by legislation In this oolonv m 1858, 1860, 1862 65 1867. 1870 75 and ,1881, therfl has baen no leel Utive reoo^oit'on of the prinolple nf inrqaiHtr between c?ty and country electors " (8) 11 Tint the sn»emt< of the inhabitants of the towcß and the o untr? districts are eubatant : aTy similar, aid the provisions of the B<T will o r ca*e unnece'eary ineqnolty, friction, and Irritation." (9) '•That nnder the exisMDg system of reprasQntaticn country di«»trioia hwo a large preponderating influence m ih^ Houa°. Under tho law. as it at present stands, wih only a fix-d quantify cf 18 per cent m the?r favor, they are now nnnnrical'y so etrong as to b« m a position to dictate not ou'y to the Government but to the House Itself on the qnea tion now under discussion." (10) M That representative* of oounlry dutrict3 are at present so numerous as to enable th> m to act oppressively towards representatives frem towns, acd the throats and conduct r.f country, members m reference to the present Bill show o'early how they would exercise any further power which they might get." (11) "The country party has resorted to the device of indica'ing Sir Geo. Grey as the 'eador of the town party, wi h the obvious purpose of casting on the latter tl c responsibility cf the motion of which ho has given notioa, having for one of i s objects a return to the existing number of members." (12) "The town party is cot responsible for nuch motion, and In no way commits itself In reference thereto. It i • well-known, moreover, that whilst tbe domlnatlcg opinion among couutry members Is to adhere to the greater number of member*, contrary 1« tha <r«e m regsrd to town members." (13) " The town party are m no way responsible for the Bill introduced by Sir George Grey In 1879, bat It mast tie apparent that the Bill was praotiotlly on tbe lines of tbe Act cf 3887-8, with tbe exoop'lon that the latter Act fixed the quota it 18 per oant Instead of 25 per cent., and that the demand of the oountry party Io now cqatl to an advantage cf 33 per cent on the same basic The following are additional clauses : — " That the Act of 1881 did rot expressly reoognfee any difference between the rights of town and country, and the members allotted to the electoral district* n the tchedule were not arrived at In accordance with any then existing law, If it fa tbe case, as the oountry party allege, that the plural vote sots prejadlofal/y In the country districts the obvious remedy would be that they should propose te do aw»y with it. Io this they would have the ofsUtance of the town member*, as they well kro*, but they refuse to aooept a remedy so obvlons and so certain, and the true demooratlo principle whloh Farliament should aim at giving effaot to Is that all electors, whether town or oounlry, ihou'd have cqial rights, and that m e'eotor's vote should hava an equil right Irresp- c live of the place whero It is elven, "BonoH on Piles."— Why Buffer Piles? Immediate relief and oomple oure guaranteed. ksk fpr Bough on Piles? Sure cure for itching, protruding, bleediog, or any form c I P.leß.

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THE REPRESENTATION QUESTION. Ashburton Guardian, Volume VII, Issue 2188, 1 August 1889

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