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PARLIAMENTARY., Ashburton Guardian, Volume III, Issue 701, 29 July 1882
LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Friday, July 28. MINING COMPANIES BILL. The Mining Companies Act, 1872, Amendment Bill was read a third time. • QUESTIONS. In reply to a question it was stated that a telegraph clerk at Onehunga, who had refused to send a telegram between 10 and 10.30 on Sunday, had been guilty of a breach of duty. STATUTE REVISION. Several Statute Revision Bills WOTO passed through the Council. FIRST HEADINGS. The Employment of Females Bill, the Bluff Harbor Foreshore Reclamation Bills, the Lyttelton Harbor Board Bill, and the Dunedin Southern Market Reserve Leasing Bills, were received from the Lower House, and read a first time. The Council adjourned at 4.35, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Friday, July 28. The House mat at 2.30. QUESTIONS. In reply to questions it was stated that under the Telegraph Act, 1860, ' the Governor in Council had made a regulation that the Government would not be responsible for errors or omissions, or delays in the the transmission of telegrams, or delays in the delivery thereof from cause the same might arise.—The increase of pay to railway employees would take effect from the 31st inat. —Government-had been attending to the work of re-planting forest trees. Provision would bemade in the supplementary estimates to enable local bodies to take the matter in hand and prosecute the work with energy. BILLS. Ihe following Bills were introduced and read a first time:—Roads and Bridges Construction ; Counties , Act, 1876, Amendment; Resumption of Lands for gold mining purposes; Gold Mining on Public Reserves. PROPOSED LAND TAX. On the motion of Sir George Grey for leave to introduce a Bill to reduce the burdens now imposed on the people by enabling reductions to be made in the properly tax and customs through the imposition of a tax on land in propertion to its value, exclusive of improve* ments. The Speaker ruled that it was vUra vires of a private member to introduce a Bill altering or remodelling the mode of taxation. That power alone rested with . the Government. Sir George Grey argued that, as a private member, he had a right to deal witbr' the grievance. It was necessary that they should have the right to deal with the question of taxation, otherwise grievances could not possibly be remedied. Morbover, he contended that the rulings of the House of Commons was in favor of rod supported his contention. ■' The Speaker adhered to hia ruling, and the introduction of the Bill was disallowed. SECOND READINGS. The following Bills were read the second time :—Mining on Harbor Board Reserves, Mining on Education Reserves, Mining on Water-race Reserves, Canterbury Rivera Act, 1870, Amendment. NATIVE RESERVES BILL. The debate on this Bill was resumed by Mr Tawhai, who said that be had seen copies of the Bill to be circulated amongst the Maori population, and they, in common with himself, looked upon the Bill as most unsatisfactory. The Hon. Mr Bryce said that while the Public Trustee would have a general control over these reserves, he would be assisted by a" Commission. The Trustee was assisted or in some respects controlled by a Board. He thought it would be wise to put a Maori on that Board. The Government would accept an amendment in that direction. He would be able to give valuable advice with regard to the management of these reserves. Again, ihe Bill made provisions so as to prevent too large a quantity of the public estate coming under the operations of the Board. He agreed in the opinion that there should be a subdivision of the land to a very great extent, but that would be a work of time, and many years would be required to arrange such a sub-division. While he did not agree in the opinion that the Maoris were dying out, he had means for ascertaining that they were not so numerous as was stated. They were decreasing at one time, but that state of matters had of late been checked. There was a considerable desire on the part of the Maoris to sell their lands now. If they were to be a permanent race it was right that an inheritance should be secured for them. This Bill went very far in that direction. He agreed that their lands must be made reproductive, and not locked up, without any chance of ' being made reproductive. That view of the case had been carefully kept in. view in framing the Bill. The working out of the Bill would be in the interests of both races. He believed the time would come when the land would pass out of Jhe hands of the Public Trustee into that of the Minister of Lands, assisted by the Land Board.
Mr Beetham spoke in support of the Bill, contending that it would operate in the interests of both races.
Mr Daniel spoke against the BilL Mr Whitaker deprecated the proposal to place their lands in- the hands of the Public Trustee. That officer had already too much to attend to. There was much, however, in the Bill he that approved of. He would support the motion for the second reading, although in committee he would move in the direction of certain amendments.
Mr Montgomery said that the Bill would give the proposed Board immense power, and that the Board practically consisted of the Government, so that in reality these vast powers were placed in the hands of the Government of the day. It seemed to him that it was a most dangerous proposal, and that the Board should be so constituted as to be independent of the Government. The proposal to put one Native on the Board would not ha concluded meet the emergencies of the case. The Board ought to be an independent one. As that Board was proposed to be he was bound to vote against the Bill Mr Seddon and Mr Thompson spoke against the Bill. The Hon. Major Atkinson said that it was nut right to hand over these lands to the natives to deal with them as they might think fit. In that case all manner of impositions would be practised upon the natives, and some protection must be provided, and he concluded that they would have to be managed by a Board. What was wanted was a Board free from political influences, and if Mr Montgomery could show a more independent Board than that proposed, then, in that case, he would have the support of the Government. The only political officer on the Board was the Treasurer, and he would like very much to see that officer taken off the Board, as he had already quite enough of work to do. Ho hoped he had shown that the principle of the .Bill was to escape political influence. The mover of the amendment that the Bill be read that day six months did not object to these reserves being managed by a Board. ‘ What he wanted was that they should be managed, not by a general but by a local Board. There was no real principle in ■ that objection. Mr Moss said that the Bill would place 1 an enormous power m the hands of an iir - responsible Ministry. They,could do a large job here and a large job there with perfect impunity. There was » report*
which he believed was true, that at that Very moment there were men negotiating for large tracts of native lands under the Thermal Springs Act. He asked the Government to say whether or not that report was correct. Mr Macandtew denounced the proposal as a monstrous power to pass into the hands of any Board, and for that , reason . ho would oppose the Bill. Mr Watts supported the Bill. It was a measure calculated to protect the natives against the acts of unscrupulous persons of the European race. The House divided. Ayes, 40; noes, 34. The Bill was then read a second time. NATIVE lANI> DIVISION BILL. The Hon. Mr Bryce moved the second reading of the Native Land Division Bill. —Carried. LEASEHOLDERS DISQUALIFICATION. The Hqd. Mr Dick moved the second reading of the Leaseholders Disqualification Bill. After discussion, the House divided— Ayes, 31; noes, 21. The Bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed on Tuesday. 4 MISCELLANEOUS. The Aliens Act Amendment Bill was further considered in committee, and reported with an additional new clause ; the Sheriffs Act, 1858, Amendment Bill was further considered and reported. The Mining Companies Registration validation Bill was next considered. ' The Education Districts Bill was com- i mitted and reported with amendments ; the Industrial Schools Bill was reported with amendments, And the House rose at 1.30. *
PARLIAMENTARY., Ashburton Guardian, Volume III, Issue 701, 29 July 1882
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