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NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMENT.

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Wednesday, July 13. The Council met »t 2.30 p.m. Replying to the Hon. Colonel Brett, The Hon. F. Whitaker said that Government, in filling up vacancies in the Civil Service, gave preference to those suffering from the reductions. At. 3.20 p.m. the Council rose. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Wednesday, Judy 13. The House met at 2.30 p.m. NOTICE OF MOTION. Mr Pitt gave notice that he would move that, under the Property Assessment Tax, building societies should only be taxed on their profits. QUESTIONS. In reply to questions, various Ministers stated: —That Government had not power to prevent juvenile theatrical performances, and they knew of no good reason why such a power should be sought.—Government had under consideration the report of the committee on Mrs Mans* ford’s petition, recommending that they should insist upon civil servants in future insuring their lives for an amount equal to one years’s pay. The point required a good deal of deliberation, all the facts requiring to be carefully considered.—lt was the intention of Government to make provision for resuming nominated emigration, subject to certain restrictions and conditions—Maps showing the proposed new electoral districts were in coarse of preparation, and would be produced shortly. THE RAILWAYS. Mr Oliver moved that a Select Committee be appointed to enquire into the management and.working of the New .Zealand railways, and to report their opinion on the changes which may appear to 'them desirable to introduce, the committee to consist of Messrs Wood, Ormond, Kelly, Shephard, Saunders, Bunny, Richardson, Wright, Macandrew, and the mover. ; The Hon. J. Hall spoke in support of the motion, stating that Government felt sure that valuable information could be obtained through that channel which could not be had from the ordinary official sources. :

Mr Macandrew thought the question a large one, and one which would take up the attention of the committee for months. The whole subject was one which would have to be gone into elaborately to do any good. He would hot, however, oppose the motion. Mr Richardson said that the subject

was one which should be dealt with ex- r haustively, and that the opportunity for doing so would be far too short. Committees of this sort were calculated to dfc organise a service. ... ; " - Major Harris moved an addition lo the : motion, empowering the committee to deal ' with the grievance of railway employees in the North Island in not being paid the full salaries promised to them. Mr J. B. Fisher suggested that it be ah instruction to the committee to deal with the question of the completion of railways. That was recognised to be a most-im-portant feature in the payable properties . of railway lines. By completion, he meant all the different descriptions of work “required to make the lines pay. In his district, harbor works were and until these harbor works were undertaken it appeared absurd to him to expect that the line could be made to pay. Of course there were other defects that would have to be looked to. In the district sented by the Premier he was fcware that road traffic competed with the railway on more favorable terms. The same thing applied to traffic on other portions of-the ; Canterbury lines.. .

Mr Bunny supported the motion, ana complained of the want of attention to the public convenience in the timing of trains to and from Wairarapa. There seenied to be no effort on the part of the railway to draw all the traffic they could on the line. The fact was, they ran with empty trucks rather than adjust their tariff so as to compete with the road traffic He hoped the committee would go into the whole thing exhaustively. Mr Wood did not see that any good would come out of the committee. The motion as worded was a very wide one, and the time was very limited. An enquiry, to do any good, would have to be on the spot. Sitting in Wellington they could come to no definite conclusion. A complaint had been made that the public convenience was not consulted, and that all the servants on the lines cared about was to shut up at an early hour and draw their salaries punctually at the end of the month. In Auckland a similar complaint had existed, and a committee of enquiry took place. That committeeu recommended that the servants should be paid a small salary, the balance to be made up by a commission upon the paying capabilities of the lines. By that means it was thought that the servants would have a personal interest in making the lines pay. That report was never acted upon ; in fact, it was never heard of any more. He would not oppose the motion, but at the same time, as the proposal stood, he did not expect much good would result from it.

Mr Gisborne adopted a similar view, giving it as his opinion that to do any good the committee would have to prose* cute its enquiries all through the recess. Mr Saunders agreed in the opinion that the committee could not possibly do the work efficiently in the short time placed at its disposal. Mr Murray thought the whole question was one of administration, and ought to be dealt with by the Government itself. To do the work efficiently, the railways should be dealt with by a Board apart altogether from politics. Mr Oliver said that, after the opinions expressed during the debate, he thought it would be judicious to withdraw the motion. Mr Bastings agreed in the opinion that if the lines were to be made a success, they would have to placed under the control of a Board. It was a notorious fact that a lot of men had been put into the railways who were thoroughly inefficient and otherwise unfitted for the work. Any private concern conducted as they were would have landed itself in the Bankruptcy Court. He hoped the mover of the motion would, before the session closed, take action with the view of getting the lines placed under the management of a Board. Mr Shephard said that so far as they could judge, the present was an early period of the session, and he believed the committee would have power to effect some good. In the matter of railways, as things stood, they were not advantageous to the public, and certainly they did not realise the amount which ought to be. realised. He agreed in the proposal for the establishment of a Board. The motion and amendment were, with the leave of the House, withdrawn. THE POLICE FORCE. Mr Stewart moved--** That a committee be appointed to enquire into the reductions and removals in the police force of the colony during the last twelve months, to consist of Messrs Colbeck, Harris, Pitt, Hurst, Shrimski, and the mover.” The Horn W. Bolleston hoped that the. motion would be rejected, as if the House intruded on such matters, that interference would tend to disorganise the force. It was a disagreeable duty thrust on the Government, but it had to be done. In the civil police LIO,OOO had been saved, and in the Armed Constabulary L 40,000. Such being the case, he hoped the House would strengthen the

hand of the Government in a matter of this kind. Mr Collins said he believed that throughout the country those reductions had been heartily approved of. Mr Bryce said he was responsible for these reductions, and he could assert they were done in a perfectly fair spirit. He had reduced twenty-one inspectors, and a commotion immediately was created. Something like 3,000 persons immediately took up their cause, and he felt that this was simply a prolongation of that agitation. Mr Reeves said that a great deal of partiality had been shown in making these reductions, and if a committee was appointed he would be able to make good that statement. . Mr Macandrow spoke in favor of the motion. There could bo no doubt but that favoritism had been shown, and if the committee was not granted, it would have a very bad effect. The Hon J. Hall said that the charge of favoritism having been made without a tittle of evidence, if a committee was appointed, it would be tantamount to a vote of censure on the Government. Mr Stewart said that he did not complain of retrenchment. What he complained of was that so-called retrenchment had not been properly gone about. He instanced the case of Inspector Mallard, who was willing to in the force at a much reduced pay, provided he was allowed to retain the rank of Com- . missioned Officer. The Government said, “No ; if you remain, you must go back to the tanks.” The result was that he left, and got L4OO compensation. That sum might have been saved had they agreed to allow him to remain on the turns mentioned. The House divided—Ayes, SO ; noes, 38. ADJOURNMENT. 1 The Premier intimated that he would > move the adjournment of the House at 8. ( 80. p.m., as he understood that in doing < so he would be consulting the convenience 1 of hon. members. Mr'Fyke said he would oppose the - adjournment, as he thought they had come there to do the work of the country, ■

not to Attend the Government balls. Mr J. 0, Brown also opposed wasting time, and, to enable him to speak on the matter, moved the adjournment of the House. This, after some discussion, was negatived by 39 to 22. The House rose at 5.30., and resumed at 7.30. p.m. SECOND READINGS. Sir 6. Grey asked leave to postpone the second reading of his Local Government Bill to that day week EDUCATION RESERVES. The House went into Committee on the Education Reserves Act, 1877, Amendment Bill. Mr Sheehan objected to the principle of the Bill, and moved that progress be reported. Mr Shrimski complained that anything brought up by Otago members was sure to be opposed. He complained against the party with whom ho was allied for withholding support in such matters, and intimated his intention of standing aloof from that party in the future. Mr Bastings, who was in charge of the Bill, agreed to reporting progress. Messrs DeLantour and Pyke supported, and Messrs Speight, Whitaker, and others, opposed the Bill The motion was carried, and progress reported. ADJOURNMENT. The Hon. J. Hall moved the adjournment. He explained that the Governor had made arrangements for the first time to entertain members and the public of the > city generally. Under these circumstances, he hoped there would be no ob- - Mr Pyke objected, complaining that it was another attempt to rob members of their private business day. The House divided on the motion for adjournment—Ayes, 30 ; noes, 13. The House rose at 8.65.

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NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMENT., Ashburton Guardian, Volume 2, Issue 395, 14 July 1881

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NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMENT. Ashburton Guardian, Volume 2, Issue 395, 14 July 1881

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