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NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMENT., Ashburton Guardian, Volume 2, Issue 388, 6 July 1881
NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMENT.
Tuesday, Jolt 6. The Council met at 2.30 p.m. The Chinese Immigrants Bill mi • passed through committee withoutasaendment, read a third time and passed. The Hon. Dr Pollen moved an amendment that the Bill should only become operative when the Chinese number of 2 per cent: of the European population,l>uTthe amendment was negatived to 14 to 7. The following is the division list For the amendment—Hons. Brett, lin, Martin, Nurse, Pharazyp, .Pollen, Scotland ; against—Hons. Adandr-.IX Buckley, Dignan, Fraser, Grace, Hart, Lahmann, Menzies, Richmond,'Robinson, Waterhouse, Whitaker, Wilson, Wood. The Bank and Bankers. Act, AMO, Amendment Bill, was read a second time. The Port Chalmers Cemetery Bill, ; Oamaru Harbor Bill, and Auckland Exchange of Reserves and Change of -Trust Bill were received from the Lower House and read a first time.
The Gaming and Lotteries .Bill partly considered in committee' and progress reported. The Council adjourned at 4.50.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Tuesday, July 5. The House met at 2.30 p.m. NOTICES OF motion..
Mr Macdonald gave notice ' that he would ask leave to introduce a Bill for the amendment of the Native Lands Act. .’
Sir G. Grey gave notice that he would move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide that no elector should vote' in more than one electorate. Sir G. Grey gave notice that ho would ask if all the papers connected with Dr Pollen’s pension papers were printed, or only a selection therefrom. INSTRUCTIONS TO BKGISTEATION OFFICERS. The Hon. J. Hall produced and laid on the table copies of all instructions issued to registration officers for their guidance in compiling rolls under the Registration of Electors Act 1879. . QUESTIONS. Ministers stated in reply to questions; —A Bill was in course of. prepajA&Gp,>cn> ablingthe Government to assut companies to construct and extend main lihes of railway by concessions of land and otherwise. It would be brought down as soon as possible. —The Government understood that the road between Nelson and Reeftonlvw Hampden and Lyell would be open-*for traffic in about a month, -When it was open Government would see what arrange* ments could be made for an overland .mail by the route.—The Government would introduce a Bill for the amendment of' the law regulating and administering native reserves, as referred to in his Excellency!! speech. , r v ~ NEWBILIi. " 1 .JJL *
In committee Mr Turnbull introduced the Timaru Harbor Board Bill, and it was read a first time.. .-j .
CORRUPT PRACTICES BIIL,
The Hon. W. Johnston moved the second reading of the Corrupt Practices Prevention BilL He explained its pro*., visions, and clause upon which it vtraed of the same nature introduced miprevioat sessions. A clause was in coarse of preparation based on the English • Bill hibiting any expenditure at all unless- it passed through the hands and wajr" spent at the discretion of an officer specially lappointed by the Government for. tfaat ;pnrpose. Other clauses from the Act would also be introduced. dr i Dr .Wallis criticised the Bill at considerable length, expressing approval of ajPb expenses being paid through the returning officer. He thought that the Bill should also protect candidates from the tyranny and corruption exercised by the newspapers, which levied blackmail at Jelactipn times, exacting long advertisements! slid charging them at scale rates. No.- doubt there were a good many honorable ahd excellent men connected with the Press jjffint there were also a large number of'Aim tof very indifferent character. He approved generally of the Bill. ' Mr Seymour objected to the penalties provided for under clause 7, and thought the terms of; disqualification should:-he limited to say the duration of the Parliament. Clause 18 was to his*-mind also too severe, the penalty being tionate tothe offence. Mr Wood said that It was most important that candidates ahouldn hnnwwieiMit distinctly what they could do and what they could not do.' This Bill prohibited - corrupt treating for example, but the difficulty was to say what was corrupt treating. The English Act was more explicit on the point. It prohibited all treating, either corrupt or otherwise. . He thought it would be much better if that course was pursued" by this Bill, as it would be much fairer to all concerned.
Mr George said the Bill as it stood . might operate very unfairly. He pointed out that a professed friend of a- candidate might violate : the provision of the Act by corrupt treating “ for the express pur* pose of serving the cause of an opposition candidate.” Mr Bunny advocated the necessity -bf framing such a Bill as would enable the candidate to close his pockets against the enormous expenditure to which hb was at present subjected. Mr Saunders said that the Bill before them was vastly inferior to the Bill brought down by the Grey Government. The introduction of the provisions I ofr the ' English Bill would be a great imropfe* ment on the measure before the "House. He would not oppose the motion for the second reading. Mr Shephard thought it would be ' ,wise to postpone the motion -for- the second reading until they had the clause prohjiaed to be brought down before them. He thought candidates should he prohibtied from employing electors in any capacity at an election, and that should be closed during elections. ' Sir W. Fox spoke in favor of the closing of thepublichouses during thetakingof the poll. He also objected to the expenses incurred by candidates in conveying electors to the poll, adding that it was not so much the conveyance of the electors for which the cost was incurred, but as a bribe for the candidates.
The Hon. W. Johnston replied, stating that the Attorney-General had proppfed that the new clauses would be of! a hathie to satisfy the most fastidious and pureminded members.
The BiU was read a second time, and ordered to stand committed op Friday. REGULATION OF hLEOTtONS BILL.' , . The Regulation of Elections Bill wai further considered in committee. Clause 68- >
Mr George moved thata sub-section be inserted providing that & member joining the Ministry during the currency otHt--1 lament should,return for re-election, fyy his constituency before taking his seat'on the Government benches, thin,* however, not to apply to, the formation of a new Ministry. He argued, in illustration, that members joining a Ministry were no longer the; free members theyw«|reattlje date of their election. Messrs’ Jotidston and-Dick, for instance, were particular branch of the education "quegtion, and they had since their election joined a Government opposed to either pf their views on the subject. Under tmse circumstances, it was only right,.that they should go back and allow.their constituents an opportunity of expressing their yiewt on the situation.
The Hon. W. Johnston said that government could not accept the. argument. T% subject had frequently been discussed in that House.
Kwi' .jyawe.. ■!Vi- the amendment [ ~~T%lt were applied also to a new Ministry, frlit would put an end to,all insinuations as to motives, of corruption, inasmuch as - that the members so elected to form the ’’C Ministry should hold office at the hands of their constituents. The amendment \ did not go far enough. It excepted “ a - qow Ministry.” He saw no reason for J- such an exception, and while supporting C i; the principle of the amendment, he would move that the exception be struck out rr Mr George said that ho wouW gladly v % accept the amendment, but for the fact
it* 3- (hat great inconvenience would be occa--1 atoned. Were a new Ministry not to be - < accepted when the House was m session, ■ - Parliament would, in the want of a J ' change of Ministry, have to adjourn - . while the new Ministers went back for re-
el Mr°Monigomeiy preferred Mr George’s • - amendments* it stood, but, rather than lose it, would take it without exception. The debste was adjourned at o.du, ana resumed at :7.30 p.m. Mr Reeves spoke m favor of the amend--r. r: Mr Collins opposed the amendment, on . tfas ground that a provision of the kind . w had not been asked for by the country. *lt wpuldbe. derogatory to the position of a - : : representative to contend that they should , (ask the opinion of their constituents in a ?jdatter of this kind. Their duty to their > country clearly over-shadowed their duty >• .ih a matter of this sort to their con;.stitaents. Mr Weston opposed the amendment. With triennial Parliaments it would be wrong to do anything that would necessi- , taietelections more frequently than those provided, for-by law. Ho could see no ■vi 'reason for the amendment. They had been told that the Government had a vacant portfolio at present. Now the fact that a proposal like that contained in the amendment should he brought forward at moll fetime went far to convince him that there was no real necessity for a provision .of- the. nature proposed by the amendaaenk .! The Hon. J. Hall demurred to the inf.- lerencetkat a constituency had a right to say;whether a manwaa to take office as a Minister or not. It was the Government that had a /right to decide upon that question.' It would deter good men from entering into the House, inasmuch as that ' it would subject them to the possibility of t' <i more expense in standing a re-election IBarithey were at present subjected to. He hoped they would not entertain the ■ ■ notion.-"' -■■ ■ . -, - Mr Levistam also opposed the motion. . It was not asked for by the country, and he felt convinced -.that members would not sell themselves, as was implied, to the highest bidder. ■ As long_ as they had • ; the remnants'offProvincialism there was no fear of a constituency objecting to its representative going into the Ministry. Constituencies were only too glad to got a good .share of the loaves and fishes, and no better way could exist'for such share than by having their member in the Government. Mr Wood’s amendment that the words * r excepting a now Ministry form the necessity for re-election ” was then put and negatived on the voices. The original amendment, moved by Mr George, was , .then put and the House divided — ‘ Ayes, Ballance, DeLautour, Ji T. Fisher (Heathcote), George, MontS "emery, Moss,. Reeves, Shrimski, Speight, wanton, Te Wheoro, Tole, Turnbull, Wood.' ■ Noes, 3ft—Messrs Allwright, Bain, Bastings, Beetham, Bowen, Bryce, 1 rir ßunny, Colbeck, Collins, Sir W. Fox, Messrs Gibbs, Hall, Hirst (Wallace), Hursthdose, Johnston, Levistam, Mason, M'Osnghan, M ; Donald, Murray, Bollestdn, Saunders, Shanks, Shephard, Stud-''■■■-■'holme, Stevens, Sutton, Thomson, Tomosna, Trimble, Wakefield, Wallis, Weston, Whitaker; Whyte, Wright. Mr W mA moved an amendment that thaclanse providing that “If a member absent himself for a whole session without J ' : permission of the House,” then his seat be declared vacant, be amended so as tb strike out “ with the permission of the , Tfic amendment was negatived on the voices, ahdtheclause as printed was then . and passed. ~;/sChe were then proposed and v adoptadas new clauses: — ... i'Cto the,day of nomination the return* L pffiojwshall preside at a meeting to be bud' at noon at- , the principal polling pdaoe of the district, and declare the pur* mse. for which the meeting is held. Every candidate shall be proposed by an elector duly qualified to vote at the elec- , ‘tion, and .seconded by .another elector, v who is qualified; and if there be no more candidates 'proposed and seconded than '' the number of members to. he . returned, " the rdburniiig officer shall publicly declare the'’candidate or candidates' then duly « and seconded, duly elected; and eturn accordingly. Id the event being more candidates proposed : ' than the number of members to he. returned, the returning officer shall • tall* for a show of hands separately in favor, of each candidate, and after such show niftß 'declare the persons in whose layer the. show of hands shall appear to ' baveheftn, and if thereupon a poll be not • demanded by one of the candidates, or by notion than two electors, the returning . officer..diall declare such persons duly ' elected;' The names cf persons so declared. be ■ elected shall be elected in pursuance thereof, and the writs shall be returned by ~him to the clerk of writs ' 'forthwith. It shall be lawful for any nominated as aforesaid at goy tfona thereafter, hut, not later than two cleir daVs ’before the day'of polling, to withdrawn!* name as a candidate by ‘ giving- i'to tho returning officer notice in ifona-jof the fourth-'schedule,-, or to the like effect', signed by the said candidate in the presence-ofand attested by a justice - oof-the ..peace;- and whenever a candidate shall so withdraw, the returning officer Jehallforthwith publish such notice in such a manner as he shall deem best calculated for giving full publicity to the same; and ~ 5 if after. snob withdrawal there shall be no . m nT * candidates than the number of members to be returned no poll shall be taken, : ; > iaqd the returning officer shall forthwith publicly declare the remaining candidates duly elected, as though the number of .- - ' candidates had not exceeded the number of membera to be elected, and shall insert . '■t tha-fodt of .such last-mentioned notice a notioein form in the fifth, schedule, or to that effect,, that the remaining candidatev axe duly elected;- and shall endorse the writ'accordingly, and shall return the < samel to.the derk of writs forthwith; pro- ' siv vided 'that if after such withdrawal the number .of candidates remaining exceed the, number .of members to be returned, ,3::ci the returning. ofi3cer shall omit the name candidate 1 whose name is with* idrawni from.the ballot paper. If a poll bedemabded. as aforesaid; the returning offlefoihaU theA declare the. day. on which thesame shall be held; being a day so to . b* ,l|xietd„as aforesaid, and the poll shall ;.f tl^x^UQ^).stand, appointed for sQch day, ;i day at .every polling place oi . . nptjce shall have been given, and no poll shall be opened, nncandidates shall before such daj to . tho numhei --not exceeding the numbers of members tc ■land schedule i-aniithe BU tBHT. lined that the ‘ to deliver ' proposed. S so to-morroi
Bill was read a second time on the motior •f the. Hon J. Hall Tt>o House adjourned at 9.26 p.m.
NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMENT., Ashburton Guardian, Volume 2, Issue 388, 6 July 1881
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