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PARLIAMENTARY., Ashburton Guardian, Volume 1, Issue 112, 12 June 1880
(per press association). LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Thursday, June flO. The Courcil sat for half an hour, The business was chiefly routine and unimportant. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Wednesday, June 9. EVENING SITTING. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS ACT AMENDMENT
Mr. Hutchison moved the first reading of the Bill, which was intended to provide for special funds being paid into a special bank account, which could be operated upon only for the specific purpose it was created to serve ; also to empower additional borrowing when a loan already raised was not sufficient to cover the purpose for which it was obtained ; to enable the proclamation of private steets public streets, and the abolition of plural voting at elections. Mr. Brandon would not oppose the Bill, but would endeavor to amend objectionable clauses in Committee. Mr. Andrews counselled postponement for suggestions from Christchurch. Mr. Shrimski objected. to further borrowing powers being given to local bodies. • • ; ■ . Mr. Pitt favored the Bill. It got absentee owners. Mr. Speight had seen fit to change his highly radical views, and would oppose the abolition of plural voting. Hon, Mr. Dick said Government would’ allow the second reading, but the corpora-
tions ought to have an opportunity to con eider the Bill’s provisions before it passed. Mr. Barron thought this was wise, and suggested three weeks as a fair time. Mr. Hutchison did not object to delay, and the Bill was read a first' time, and ordered to be committed that day three weeks. . DRAINAGE. Mr. Murray moved the second reading of his Drainage Bill, which would empower persons to enter into, schemes for the drainage of their own properties, and find work for men at a slack time of the year. The measure would help the agricultural interest. Mr. Shepherd moved the Bill be read that day six months. Every shilling was wanted for present engagements, and it was no time to. add fresh burdens of borrowed money. Mr. Bain favored the practical purposes of the Bill, but questioned the machinery. The Bill ought to be committed with a view of impoving the machinery proposed. This was accepted by Mr. Murray, and on a division the Bill was referred to the Committee on Agriculture. THE LICENSING BILL. Mr. Speight resumed the adjourned debate. He objected to the Native licenses, as the Natives were keen-witted, and saw the evils of drink. He knew Maori districts that ivould poll to a man against having drink amongst them. He objected to the quorum, of two on the Bench, which was not enough, and to the proposed billiard-room license, and to the proposal to let clubs go free of police supervision, and strongly condemned these places, which were just where police supervision was.wanted. Police super-, vision should go with all licenses. The family hotel’license would only be useful if it were honestly used-—there was the., difficulty. He suggested that to prevent sale of liquor to children, a clause should be.added prohibiting their carrying liquor off the premises. He suggested that wives and children would be more easily induced to give evidence dn cases where their husbands and fathers were con-, cerned if the proceedings were made less public. Mr. Bowen agreed with the general provisions of the Bill and felt sure local, option was acquiesced in by the House. He objected to native licenses and’ to those to family hotels; The latter were a fraud, and would become a refuge for men bunted out of respectable houses. He was glad to see the bottle license abolished ; but he thought the Bill should have defined what a club was, and not left the word ifi the ambiguous sense it was now.' The “ honajide traveller ” was a fraud and an absurdity, and ought to be abolished, as also the selling of drink at railway stations. Mr. Fulton agreed generally with the Bill. Sir William Fox moved the adjournment of the debate till to-morrow night, which was carried. AUCTIONEERS LICENSING BILL. The committal of this Bill was postponed for a fortnight to receive suggestions from the Wellington auctioneers. The House adjourned at 12.30. Thursday, June 10. AFTERNOON SITTING. AN IMPORT DUTY. Mr, Reeves gave notice that he would move for an import duty to be levied on all imports into the colony. . THE SPEAKER’S KNIGHTHOOD. . . It was intimated that a sum would be placed on the Estimates to cover the costs of conferring the honor of Knighthood on the Speaker. ; PRESS MESSAGES. ; The Premier said the hours had been curtailed during which special press correspondents could send special messages simply to avoid a cost to the country of L7OO per annum. The privilege would be restored if the press were ready to meet that outlay. NEW BILLS. The following Bills, amongst others, were introduced and read a first time : Malvern Water Race Transfer Act, TB7B‘, Amendment Act, Ashburton County Council Water Works Act, 1879, Amendment (Mr. Wright). NATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. Mr. Lundon moved—“ That the Select Committee on Native Affairs do consist of 19 members, and that Mr. DeLautour, Mr, .Thomson., Mr. M ‘Donald, Mr. Whyte, aiicl the mover be atided to the Committee.” The Hon. J. Bryce opposed the motion, and cautioned the House that the adoption of this motion would practically be a ■-ra-opening of the whole question, and a probable return to the objectionable state of matters connected with the constitution of Committees which Government had been at great trouble to rectify. Mr. Moss said that many of the Auckland members had come down determined to do their duty independent altogether of party consideration. The first thing they were met with was a disposition on the part of Government to carry their purpose by ; every possible device within their power. He cautioned the Native Minister against a proceeding of this kind in regard to this Committee. He was much pained at the course adopted by the Native Minister in this respect. Mr. Speight spoke in support of the motion. Mr. Turnbull also supported the motion. ... . Mr. Seddon did not think the circumstances of the Committee were so very exceptional as to. warrant a departure from the rule laid down regarding the number of members to be placed on Committees. i Major Te Wheoro supported the motion. Mr. Thomson suggested that the motion should be withdrawn, seeing that there were 14 members on the Committee already. i Mr. DeLatour said the Committee, as constituted, was not likely to work efficintly Major Atkinson said that as things were constituted, Government supporters must of necessity predominate on the Committee. He denied that there was any disparity between the members of this Committee in respect of political parties. The Hon. W. Gisborne said that it was deeply to be deplored that these Committees should be regulated in their constitution by party spirit. Mr. Tole spoke in favor of the motion. He felt that the natives might just as well at once send their petitions to the Native Minister, as send them to the Committee constituted as it was. Sir William- Fox said that he was on that Committee some years ago when the Government was in other hands, and he could remember that there was a majority of : Government supporters on it then. He was afraid all this kick-up was an illustration of the old doctrine of— The Devil being sick, the Devil a monk would be, When the Devil got well, the devil a monk was he. ; Mr. Lundon replied, and a division resulted in—Ayes 29 ; Noes 40. The motion was accordingly negatived. Sir G. Grey then gave notice that he would move that his name be expunged from the Native Affairs Committee. Mr. Hamlin gave notice he would move (hat his name be expunged from the same Committee. PLEURO-PNEUMONIA. Mr. Hursthouse moved—“ That in the opinion of this House all transportation of cattle from the North to the South Island should be suspended until Government are satisfied that pleuro-pnemonia, now known to exist in the Provincial District of Auckland, is eradicated; an 4 that all cattle arriving from
Australia be quarantined for at least three months, and that Government should at once issue an Order-in-Coxincil in accordance with the provision of ‘Diseased Cattle Act, 1871/ to give effect to the foregoing resolution. ” Mr. J. B. Fisher seconded and spoke in support of the motion. The Hon'. J. Hall could not agree with the motion. The fact was that the disease was confined to a very small district of Auckland —a district from which cattle were never taken South. It was on the decrease, and there was no danger of the disease spreading. If it should increase. Government would exercise its powers to avert danger, but at present there was no danger of its spreading. They , were watching carefully over the matter, and he hoped the motion-would not be pressed. Mr. Ballance said that he had been assured on good authority that many of the cattle slaughtered had not pleuropneumonia at all, and that the alarm was to a large extent groundless. The debate was interrupted by the 5.30 1 adjournment. EVENING SITTING;. - ( The House resumed at 7.30. The Licensing Bill. Sir W. Fox resumed the debate on the Licensing Bill. He was glad to find Government direct its attention to the moral and social improvement of the masses. This Bill was a movement in that direction. A cry had been raised throughout the world of the great evils attendant oh • the drink traffic. It have been said truly - that if all the evils of war, famine &c., had been put together they would be nothing compared with the evils entailed by drunkenness. This Bill gave the power of protection against the sale of in toxica- - ting drink. A movement in that direction.; had his entire sympathy and of those with whom he was leagued. It would therefore have his and their best efforts in getting it. passed into law. They had the evil existing now, and they wanted to cure it. This Bill was not complete, and he trusted Government would see its way . to remodel the Bill in that respect. In 1870 he brought in a Bill having this object, and at first he could not get it beyond a second reading. The principle of allowing the people to quash a license without paying compensation was then asserted. What temperance reformers desired, was power of -this kind. Without such power they wpuld never be able to put down drinking habits. As sure as drink shops were established, so surely would gaols, lunatic asylums, and other kindred evils exist. Until that right was conceded, they would continue year after year to demand it, and not rest content until it was obtained. They hai petitions demanding, that .right. . These, petitions were first .signed by 5,000, then 9.000, and last of all 17,000, so that there was evidence of the desire on the part of the people to obtain such a right. Subsequently the Bill referred, to above was passed into law, and now stands on the Statute Books, so that this Bill, practically speaking, aimed at withdrawing that power. What they wanted was the local option principle embodied in the Licensing Bill, in the form in which it now.stood on the Statute Books. He denounced the clubs as virtually sly . grog dens, and although it was proposed to charge them a , license fee, they were not to besubjected to : police supervision. A more monstrous proposal could not be imagined. What he proposed in reference to these establishments was that they should be subjected to the same police supervision as the ordinary public house. .They were calculated to do more harm than the regular shebeen. The latter had to carry on their practices under certain restraints. He next alluded to .the proposed native licensing system. Some of these districts were the scenes of the utmost degradation, . When New Zealand was first taken possesion of by Europeans the natives numbered 114.000, now they had dwindled down -to 40.000, +his diminution being attributable in a great measure to the introduction of-, strong drink. Not only had they given the natives drink, but they had given them what wa? called native rum, that was a specially [vile fdeebetion, calcullated to drive the consumer to madness and the grave. He was sorry to see by this Bill an attempt was being made to lessen the power „ of the Native Assessor in questions of granting licenses. , He counselled them not to attempt to weaken the Act .passed two years ago in connection with native licenses. If they did the native race would be stamped out. It was matter for ..congratulation that licenses could only be issued once a year. The system of quarterly licensing days had done a great, deal to defeat the efforts of the temperance party to stem the evil It a man did not get his license on one day it was sure to be granted at the next quarterly sitting. He considered the bottle license system as one of the most demoralising features’of the trade. They had been told that under proper regulations this system was ■■ good, but there was no good regulation in a matter of this kind. The profits of the trade consisted of excessive drinking,,and , so long as that was the case there could be no good regulation. These were a few of the defects of the Bill, and when it got into Committee he would use his endeavors for their removal. V . Dr’ Wallis agreed with the previous speaker in thinking that total prohibition was the right cure for this evil. Government, however, could not afford to, dispense with the revenue arising out of the traffic, and the vested-interests which had grown out of it were very considerable. He would support a measure for the total prohibition of the traffic in spirits. Turning to the Bill before the House, he noticed that it proposed a modified course; but ho contended that the fiill measure qf local option should be given. He knew why' it had not been given j it was the question of compensation that frightened them. Ho agreed with the general principles of the Bill, and would give it his support, reserv. irig to himself the privilege of making a few suggestions when it got into Com. mittee. Mr. Sauhcleps regifetted that the subject was not felt to be one,of more importance to the House. He disputed a theory put forward by . the previous speaker that alcohol was beneficial under certain conditions. The Hon. T. Dick replied he was not surprised that exception was taken to parts - of the Bill. His only surprise, in a Bill so large, would be if these exceptions were not taken. Some of the suggestions made were good, and he hoped to see them given effect to : others he believed would not be an improvement. The two parties, the publicans and temperance party, had each their representatives in the House, and no doubt ample justice would be done to both causes. He only hoped that when it came out of Committee it would be found a Bill calculated to promote the best interests-of the community-as a whole. - - The Bill was then read a second: time, and ordered-to be committed on Tuesday. LODGERS’ PROTECTION BILL. ....... Mr. Stewart moved the second, reading - of the Lodgers’ Protection Bill. The Hon. J. Hall thought the Bill a : desirable one. The motion was put and carried. . FEMALE REDRESS RILL. .. Mr. Stewart moved the second reading . of the Female Redress Bill. It was a measure which had the sanction of the ■ Judges at Home. In 1867 a case Was . tried in the, Courts in England. A ; member of a church had a charge pre- ■ ferred of unchastity. She appealed to the Law Courts, and it was found that the law could not give her redress.. He quoted from the law books to show that • such imputations were not actionable unless it could be shown that she had;. sustained special damages. At-present a* -■
woman might be disgraced and her usefulness impaired, all because the law afforded her no protection. The Hon. J. Hall said he had heard no reason for legislation. At the present time the subject had not been taken up in the Home country, and he did not see the necessity for it yet. He would oppose the motion. , , Mr Shepherd said that when he read the Bill, it struck him that properly speaking it should be called a Bill for the protection of abandoned ■women. A woman living a loose life might bring an action against every one who said a word against her, and the result that she might ruin her. husband with costs. If the Bill were amended in that respect, he would like to see it passed. Mr. Macandrew thought the second reading at all events should be granted. Mr. M'Lean thought the Bill might lead to great hardships. He moved as an amendment —“That the Bill be read that day six months.” Mr. Stewart replied that he would be willing to insert a clause about the costs, so as to meet the only real objection that had been stated. If the House allowed the motion to pass he would not press the matter further this session. • The amendment being withdrawn, the motion was put and carried. OAMARO HARBf R. Mr. Shrimski moved the second reading of the Oamaru Harbor Board Act, 1876, Amendment Bill. ■ The Bill was read a second time. Friday, June 11. . . AFTERNOON SITTING. The House met at 2.30. ' Replying to questions, it was stated that . Jonas Woodward, Public Trustees, had • practically ceased being in Government ■ employ on the Ist May. He had a right . to subscribe his name as manager of a Trust Company. ■ At the request of Go- ; vemment he was temporarily carrying on the duties of Public Trustee, but without salary. The San Francisco mail contract terminates in 1883, and could not be terminated sooner, unless a breach occurred. , No officer in the employ of Government , acted, or received a premium to act as a j correspondent for the Press Association or any newspaper. Sir John Goode’s report on the Buffer harbor was not expected for £ three months. t Major Atkinsdn stated that new and c simpler forms of property tax schedules would be issued, and the time for sending £ them in extended. The Railway Department collected freights for the Union • Shipping Company at Dunedin and Can- y terbury to convenience the public, and no commission was charged for collection, f, Crombie’s property tax pamphlet was a r private speculation, and Government was not interested in either costs or profits. Beading lights for steamers at Tory g ■ Channel would be erected shortly. 130 j. West Coast natives had been detained j, in prison, waiting trial, for eleven months. One died during incarceration. Their maintenance and cost per week was g L 75. tl NEW BILL, The Evidence Amendment Bill (Mr. Stewart) was introduced and read a first t] time. , st " THE PHARMACY BILL. p Mr. Dick moved the second reading of the' Pharmacy Bill, and, after some debate, replyinging to objections made, 'said he would not object to an amendment enabling women to be candidates, and the statutory examination so arranged •would take place throughout different ( parts of the colony. The motion was carried. PTHE ELECTIONS PETITIONS. P The Hon. John Hall moved the second . reading of the Elections Petitions Bill, and lr explained its clauses. He stated that it P 1 was identical with the Bill before Parliament last session. ® Dr. Wallis denounced the Bill as un- “ constitutional, and calculated to impose serious hardships on members. Mr. Tole suggested that questions of “ J fact should be lett for the determination ta of juries, and that, on questions of law, appeals should be reserved from the judge to the Court of Appeal. ® Mr. Turnbull complained that the Bill ®’ did not determine what corrupt practices & and bribery were. . . The debate was interpreted by the 5.30 r adjournment. ir IMPORTANT GOLD DISCOVERY. ** Kumara, June 9. ir A most important discovery of gold has been made by the Long Tunnel Tail Race d' Company. They have been two-and-a- w half years bringing in a tunnel through a P ; reef which exists between Dunedin Flat and the Teremakau river, and have T just broke through into the wash, which si for thirty feet averages one grain to the dish. This is 130 feet below the surface, and as the lowest ground at present worked na has been thirty feet, this discovery is con- w sidered very important. All the ground st below this depth is workable by ground ai sluicing, which means nearly the whole of ac the goldfields. h' —oi
PARLIAMENTARY., Ashburton Guardian, Volume 1, Issue 112, 12 June 1880
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