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PARLIAMENT., Ashburton Guardian, Volume I, Issue 10, 18 October 1879
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10.
The Council met at 7.30.
Mr Miller gave notice of motion for a select mniitteo to enquire into the native department and native land expenditure for the past year. Mr Whitaker said, as the Imprest Bill had not passed the Lower House there was no business for the Council. He therefore moved the adjournment till Tuesday, which was agreed to, and the Council rose at 7.40.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
W;;i »■ nsDAY, October 15.
The delate on the adjournment was continue ! till 11. K), when it was agreed to on (he voices. Messrs Reid, Trimble, and flursrliouss, were the speakers, the first against, and the latter two in favor of the Government. Thursday, October lb. CORRECTION. Mr Hall corrected a statement in the morning paper, which omitted to state ho had told the late Premier that one month before resigning his seat in (.ho Upper House lie had addressed his constituents with a view to lua nomination for a scat in the Lower House. JOSHUA JoNEri, OF JIOKAU. Mr Hall, in reply to Col. Trimble, said, that Joshua Jones of New Plymouth or Mokau, was some kind of agent for the late Government, Payments had been made to him for special services, amounting to £’3oo. He also had free use of the telegraph wires. Those was nothing to show the specific nature of his engagement, but he had received sums of £l2O, £2O, and £250. On the question that the paper be printed, Mr Mieehau said he hoped no obstruction would be offered to the printing of tire same, and the matter could lie debated hereafter.
Mr Moss objected to such papers being printed for insidious motives. Col. Trimble objected to the use of the word “ insidious” in connection with any paper lie asked for. Major Atkinson said this person had been promised a block of land, and Government survey had been made for him. The value of his services could be discussed when fuller information was furnished.
Mr Sheehan said all surveys were no w made by the Government, the persons for whom they were made giving a bond fur repayment of the costs of same. The paper was ordered to be printed. THE STEAMER HANNAH MOKAU.
Mr Bryce, in reply to Mr Turnbull, said the Government had an interest in the steamer Hannah Mokau, but bad recoiv ed no dividend or interest upon the share, or the mortgage advanced on the said steamer. The Government had paid for the share or interest in the name of Rewi and To Wetere. A sum of £8(1 had been advanced by the Government. A subsidy of £3OO a year was promised, but eight months’ subsidy had been withheld. The steamer was seized at one time, and Government ordered the money to be paid and an assignment made to them. £IOO had boon paid on account of Rewi and To Wotore's share.
The paper was ordered to bo printed, RKOPOKEU TIAIARU COUNTY.
Mr Hall, in reply to Mr W.kGiel J, said they had received a petition from electors within the propose:! > ’minty of Tiinaru, praying that the county may not bo constituted, and would lay a copy before the House. They had also received a counter petition.
CURRENT CONTRACTS COR PUBLIC WORKS. The Minister for Public Works, in reply to Mr Macandrew, said lie would lay before the Mouse a return showing the whole of the colonial public works under his department at present contracted for, and giving all particulars. ashjjurton corin' house. Mr Rollesfcon, in reply to Mr Wright as to whether a sum of money would be placed on the estimates for building a Court House at Ashburton, said a sum would bo placed on the estimates for the purpose. Aims OF TARANAKI VOLUNTEERS. Mr Hall, ill reply to Colonel Trimble, said the bulk of Taranaki volunteers were armed with muzzle-loading rilles, but he would sue that they were exchanged for breech-loading rides. There were 350 stand to be served out. GUTHRIE AND LAUXACU’s CONTRACTS. Mr Oliver, in reply to Mr Sutton, said £1'2,44~) bad been paid to Messrs Guthrie and La much since duly Ist for the supply of railway iron and roiling stock. The amount owing ou same account was shown in a return. The arrangement was fully open to public competition. Tlic return was laid on the table. WAIKATo-TUAMES RAILWAY. Mr Oliver, in reply to Mr McLean, said he would lay before the House a copy of the plan, estimate, and certificate of the Engineer-in-Charge of the North Island in connection with the railway from Waikato to the Thames ; also, a distinctly colored map showing the surveys that I have been made of the country between Grahamstown and Te Aroha, and those j parts which have not been surveyed ; also showing how far surveys of the line between Grahamstown and Te Aroha have been completed, and the places where the Natives stepped in and prevented the surveyors going any further, and the place where the man McWilliams was shot near Ohinemuri. The plan and estimates were already on the table, but the other information would also be supplied. Mr Sheehan said they must not suppose that tuo surveyor in question was on the railway survey service. A LAND QUESTION! Mr llolleston, in reply to Mr Harris, as to the transfer of lot 7Sf, tjucuu's Redoubt, to the Presbyterian trustee, and construction of the roan cn rough the same by settlors, said the cou.iA.Giieations were so voluminous lie would like the hon. member to call at the •. il.ee cud see them for himself, and sc Lev viu.se ho would like to see. Mr Needham drew the intention of the House, as a privilege, to the allegation contained in the petition of Hirini liawiri
Tawhanga, aiuffhoved the aupnmtmejjjt of a Select Committee to report on samep such Committee to consist of Messrs Brandon, DeLautour, Sir George Grey, Messrs Hislop, Murray, Ormond, Bolleston, and the mover. Mr Sheehan said the object of the petition was to puuish Tawhai for not voting with the lion, gentleman’s, party. He denied that there had been any influence exercised in his return, or the return of any other native members. He objected to the construction of the Committee, and said that unless a more impartial one was selected by the hon. gentleman his motion would be opposed. The proper tiling under the circumstances was to pass a Qualification Act rather than seek to thrust from the House one who was distinguished for all that was noble amongst his own people, because he was. in receipt of a paltry £SO per annum from the colony as an assessor, and had neglected to resign the appointment in time.
Mr Wakefield contended that there was no question of a party character involved, and contended that they should act in strict accordance with the law and precedent in deciding this matter. Mr Hislop moved—“ That the names of Messrs Stewart, Tole, Swanson, and Pitt be added to the committee.” He would propose this as an amendment to the motion before the House. T.rinui said he thought it was the duty of the returning officer acquainted with the law to inform his friend of the nature of the Act, so that lie might have sent in his resignation in time. He had only just learned that his return had been petitioned against, and the ground of objection. If the Act had been in Maori the mistake would not have been made.
The '■po.'.kcr then replied to Mr Montgomery that the ground of bribery alleged was sufficient to bring the petition under the Act. Mr Montgomery thought the question of infringement of the provisions of the Disqualification Act, 1878, should.be first proceeded with, and would suggest that the motion be altered to that effect. The suggestion was approved of by the mover. ivi r Hall trusted the House would deal with the matter regardless of any party question. The debate was cut short by the 5.110 adjournment. EVENING SITTING. The House met at 7.30. ORDER OF BUSINESS. Mr Beetham thought his question of privilege should take precedence of the orders of the day. ft"; The Speaker ruled that it must ewe on its place after the orders of the day to. morrow, and he could not overrule the Standing Orders, which provided that orders of the day should come on at this hour. He called the orders of the day, stating that if members chose to postpone them they could do so. AUCKLAND IMPROVEMENT COMMISSION. Mr Hurst moved the second reading of the Auckland Improvement Commission Transfer of Powjrf|Bfcill. He explained that the object oTOie-Bill \vas to transfer the powers held by the Commissioners to to the Auckland City Council. The Bill passed its second reading, and was ordered to be committed on Wednesday week. SUPPLY.
Major Atkinson, at this stage, said he had consulted his hon. friends opposite as to going into Committee of Supply, but had received no assurance that they would not oppose it by introducing some measure which might defeat it and involve many day s’ delay and debate. He trusted hon. gentlemen would give way and refrain from moving any motion which would frustrate the granting of supply, and assure them that they would not take advantage of the necessity of the colony, which required the passing of supply through the House. If they give way tiro responsibility would rest upon them.
Mr Macandrew said he had no intention on his side of the House of opposing the supply required ; but unless an assurance was given that the no-confidence motion would be allowed to come on next day, he should take other steps that evening. Major Atkinson said it was clear the hon. gentleman meant to refuse supply. [“ No, no.”] Mr Hislop suggested that Standing Orders be suspended, to enable the hon. gentleman to make a statement. Mr Macandrew said it was clear the Government did not intend to accede to the request preferred on behalf of a majority of the House, and however much lie regretted it, he should now have to move the adjournment of the House. Major Atkinson repeated that the responsibility rested upon those who obstructed the business.
Mr Turnbull did not consider that a majority should be bound by the opinion of a minoritv.
Mr Montgomery said not one member of the Opposition would; refuse to grant supply in consequence of any motion of no-confidence, as they would grant them quite as willingly as any member of the Government, but would state their, grievance first. *4^ Mr M‘Lean said it might take them' weeks to decide that grievance. It was useless to say they were not delaying business in the meantime by blocking the Order Paper and stopping supplies. Mr Pyke said he rose to explain his vote, as he was one who gave a vote to place the present members on the benches, but not under the impression that Mr Hall would be sent for. He did so because he thought a re-construction would follow. He thought the same when Sir W. Fox’s no-confidence motion was brought down, and should vote on the same ground again when an opportunity presented itself. Both lie and the member for Dunedin thought a re-construction would follow, and therefore intended to use their votes to bring this about. He trusted they would have no more spectacles of heaven-born financiers condemning the financial condition of the colony, and injuring it in tho money market. Mr Saunders advocated improved finance if tho colony was to be saved from ruin, and condemned the mismanagement of the late Government in all matters affecting the welfare of the colony. It was time such matters as those of payment of secret service money to persons named .Tones, as shown that afternoon, were brought to an end, and the House should assist in bringing this about. ± After Messis Moss and Seddon had spoken, the question of adjournment was put and carried on the voices afc10.45.
PARLIAMENT., Ashburton Guardian, Volume I, Issue 10, 18 October 1879
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