Mr. Searancke had said ''leave him (Stevens) to build his good houses and then remove him subsequently the version that I have heard was to the effect of what I have stated today. I was the spokesman at the meeting with the Superintendent and Mr. Fitzherbert and expressed the sentiments of the Natives above named. In answer to a question by W. N. Searancke Esqre Wiremu Parata further saith. It was some time, it might have been a year after Mr. Searancke said what I have above stated before the Surveyor came to lay off the ground. Ebenezer Baker saith, I was the Interpreter when the meeting above referred to took place I remember that Wi Parata stated that Mr. Searancke said ''never mind let him (meaning Stevens) build the good houses and garden and enclosures and presently you will get all these for nothing''. I do not remember his having used these words for he ought to know the boundaries. In answer to questions by W. N. Searancke Esqre, Anaru te Hoakai